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Quote princesschyrstin: Quote sarahconnor: this is an interesting subject and very individual. i think it's ok if you don't want kids and it's ok if you do. same with relationships. i don't feel women should be shamed for wanting to work on their careers vs having kids. i don't feel women should be shamed for getting pregnant early. i don't feel they should be shamed for any choice as long as it's the right one for them. it seems women get the judgment and backlash while men get a slap on the hand and comments such as "that's just a guy for you" when it comes to their choices...i hate it. i work and have 2 kids. i do have to work, i make the most money. i love both very much but i do not think i was cut out to be a parent at times. one child is very very difficult and although i do the best i can, at the end of the day i don't feel alot of happiness or joy. i wish i did. i really wish i could go back in time and select a different mate. i am NOT MARRIED and choose to not to be married. we have been engaged for a long time and refer to ourselves as married alot to avoid alot of uncomfortable questions but this has been my choice. he is Catholic (very Catholic family) - i am NOT. i am not converting for the sake of a marriage (i will never change who i am and my beliefs for another) - and i'm not marrying to please society. maybe if i was truly in love i would marry but well..i'm not. i guess when we first got together i thought i felt differently at the time. there is so much pressure from society at times for women to be married & have kids as if that is our sole purpose. i think in the beginning my choices were actually governed by some of that..i thought if i did not have kids, i would regret it. i don't regret having them, but i realize now, i was just fine on my own. maybe this is not the most politically correct post but it's honest. I know what you are sayung I get a lot of crap because I CHOSED to have my kids young I was 18 when my son was born and I had my youngest a few months ago. But people judge so quickly they look at me like im a young uneducated girl who's having babies for fun but what they don't know is that I started my first business when I was 16 yrs old. I bought a house at 18 all my kids are well taken care of. Its just funny to me how I am still stereotyped I find myself feeling like I have to have the best of everything to show outsiders that I have my stuff together (which is stupid)! and you are right, no one should judge you for your choices. they are yours and what is right for you. i think the world would be a much better and happier place if many people minded their own business and realized what is right for one person, may not be for another. i agree i think you can have both and find balance. or you can do one or the other..it depends on how you feel and what you want in life. |
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quote sarah...and you are right, no one should judge you for your choices. they are yours and what is right for you. i think the world would be a much better and happier place if many people minded their own business and realized what is right for one person, may not be for another. i agree i think you can have both and find balance. or you can do one or the other..it depends on how you feel and what you want in life. |
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Quote cats meow: i was 22 when i got married, told my future husband i did not want children, he said he would be happy either way, we were married 3 yrs when i had my tubes tied, he had to give permission(it was 1975), i have never regretted my decision, i think he missed being a dad for awhile, now, no regrets, we have been married for 36 plus years I admire you decision. In this state you cannot get your tubes tide unless you are over 35 or have at least 2 kids and are married. That is disgraceful. My sister had her baby in 1985 and no way in H@ll would they tie her tubes. She was 22. My cousin who was 29, married with no kids was turned down also. The only opion she was given was a vasectomy for her husband. So discriminating! My 20 year old nephew just had a vasectomy in January this year. He is not married and has no kids. Not only that but the Health Department paid for the whole thing. What a double standard. Only thing the Health Department will do for a woman is hand out condoms and birth control pills. |
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i spoke to my GYN about this and he said, you have to be married at least 3 years, you and your husband need to come in and talk to me about the procedure, he has to sign a form to give permission, i think, i cannot remember,if our ins covered it, i was in a hospital overnight, those days are gone, all this out patient surgeries now |
Sunnydaz![]() |
Women's Lib ruined my life. |
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ITA!!! While I think it's great for women who choose career over family that they can do that @ the same time I think for us women who choose to be moms it has ruined it! No linger can 1 person work to support the family both need jobs and usually daycare and as a past daycare teacher and my children attended as well as I said somewhere else it was the worst decision I ever made!! We shouldn't be penalized for choosing to be parents! |
sarahconnor![]() |
i don't think *any* of us should be penalized for our choices regardless of what they are. they are individual and personal. i admire women who can stay home and balance everything & get joy from it. i think being a stay at home mom OR DAD is HARD. i say that b/c i lack patience badly and i know this about myself. i was never much of a person who went crazy over kids or babies ever. i am constantly working on myself in regards to patience but there are days i just think i was not meant for the job. i did choose it tho, so i do the best i can and always put my children first. without a doubt i love them and would give my life for them. i think i felt i was being judged pre-kids for not wanting children at one point and even started feeling that maybe others were right, i would regret it if i didn't have them. although i'm happy they are here, i do realize i would have been just fine had i never known the difference. i feel stupid for allowing society to make me feel ashamed for not wanting the same things as others just b/c i'm "female". it's not about society..screw that. it's about what you feel "inside"...for some of us, it's a yearning for children and for some it's just not. it doesn't make anyone weird, cold or mean, just different. i think both experiences are fantastic as long as it was right for the person who made the choice. i do not believe in judging it either way. i do wish our economy was better so more people could stay home with their kids if that is their desire. i definitely respect anyone who wants to do that! personally i do like to work, i don't like to clean, hate housework, love to be out socializing. that does not make me selfish or a bad person..it's just who i am. however i make my choices based on what is best for my kids ..i don't socialize as much, i do clean alot although i despise it, i cook and i despise that too. i have to work anyway b/c i really don't have a choice in that. i do make the bulk of the income - one child has special needs in which socializing is good for him so daycare is a good thing in his case. my income allows for all of his needed therapy as well. he gets some of the best therapy as a result. he gets socialization, therapy and time with me at home. i spend the majority of my "off" time with my kids and any time for me is when i can squeeze it in. i really wish i could say i get joy out of it all, but i just don't as much as others may. i will be alot happier when they are older so i can regain some of my personal life again - and as i don't judge those who love kids and want to be around them as much as possible, i would hope they would extend the same courtesy and not judge me. if we could all appreciate each other's differences, the world would be a much better place indeed. |
cats meow![]() |
i so agree sarah, no one should be judged regarding their decisions, i have to say,(it's so funny to be remembering all of this so long ago) many people judged me, especially the women i worked with, they were a bit older, i was mid 20's, and some had plenty to say, selfish, spoiled, lazy, one women had the nerve to ask me why i ever got married, i told her it was because i fell in love, i do regret one thing tho, being honest with my parents, they were heart broken (i am an only child), they thought they had somehow failed as parents, what they didn't realize at the time was they taught me to be honest and strong to make my own decisions, when my dad died and my mother came to live with us, she finally saw how happy we were, just the 2 of us, i know i made the right decision for me, i have nieces and nephews in my life and that is just perfect, i also say we should all support each other in whatever choices we have made |
wannazach![]() |
Quote cats meow: i so agree sarah, no one should be judged regarding their decisions, i have to say,(it's so funny to be remembering all of this so long ago) many people judged me, especially the women i worked with, they were a bit older, i was mid 20's, and some had plenty to say, selfish, spoiled, lazy, one women had the nerve to ask me why i ever got married, i told her it was because i fell in love, i do regret one thing tho, being honest with my parents, they were heart broken (i am an only child), they thought they had somehow failed as parents, what they didn't realize at the time was they taught me to be honest and strong to make my own decisions, when my dad died and my mother came to live with us, she finally saw how happy we were, just the 2 of us, i know i made the right decision for me, i have nieces and nephews in my life and that is just perfect, i also say we should all support each other in whatever choices we have made Funny but this thread reminds me of the gay marriage thread. It is just another example of busy bodies trying to tell others how they should live. WHY people do that is beyond my comprehension. Having or not having a child is no ones business other than the woman involved. I wish all those parents who have abused and killed their kids would have decided that they should not have any. It would have saved a lot of suffering for innocent children such as Caylee Anthony. |
sarahconnor![]() |
Quote cats meow: i so agree sarah, no one should be judged regarding their decisions, i have to say,(it's so funny to be remembering all of this so long ago) many people judged me, especially the women i worked with, they were a bit older, i was mid 20's, and some had plenty to say, selfish, spoiled, lazy, one women had the nerve to ask me why i ever got married, i told her it was because i fell in love, i do regret one thing tho, being honest with my parents, they were heart broken (i am an only child), they thought they had somehow failed as parents, what they didn't realize at the time was they taught me to be honest and strong to make my own decisions, when my dad died and my mother came to live with us, she finally saw how happy we were, just the 2 of us, i know i made the right decision for me, i have nieces and nephews in my life and that is just perfect, i also say we should all support each other in whatever choices we have made i completely understand cats! i also commend you for being so brave in those days to face those who just could not see outside of their own little box. although our society can still be judgmental, i think it's getting better at least!! i feel bad that you needed permission to get your tubes tied..sheesh. people preach about abortions being bad then dare to shame a woman for having her tubes tied? or make her get permission from her husband? i have a feeling these are the same types of people..shame on THEM. it just enrages me that just b/c you did not "want" kids, someone had the nerve to call you selfish. they should have called you responsible. responsible & mature enough to know what YOU wanted to do the right thing for YOU. i have friends that are stay at home moms and some that do their own thing. i say both are to be celebrated as long as the person is happy...i firmly believe that most judgmental people are just angry and bitter at heart anyway. |
sarahconnor![]() |
Quote wannazach: Quote cats meow: i so agree sarah, no one should be judged regarding their decisions, i have to say,(it's so funny to be remembering all of this so long ago) many people judged me, especially the women i worked with, they were a bit older, i was mid 20's, and some had plenty to say, selfish, spoiled, lazy, one women had the nerve to ask me why i ever got married, i told her it was because i fell in love, i do regret one thing tho, being honest with my parents, they were heart broken (i am an only child), they thought they had somehow failed as parents, what they didn't realize at the time was they taught me to be honest and strong to make my own decisions, when my dad died and my mother came to live with us, she finally saw how happy we were, just the 2 of us, i know i made the right decision for me, i have nieces and nephews in my life and that is just perfect, i also say we should all support each other in whatever choices we have made Funny but this thread reminds me of the gay marriage thread. It is just another example of busy bodies trying to tell others how they should live. WHY people do that is beyond my comprehension. Having or not having a child is no ones business other than the woman involved. I wish all those parents who have abused and killed their kids would have decided that they should not have any. It would have saved a lot of suffering for innocent children such as Caylee Anthony. exactly! i mean how many horror stories are on the news? it's sickening. i can't even read it at times i get so upset. |
cats meow![]() |
thank you so much ladies, i just applaud my parents for making me who i am today, they did a great job raising me, oh no, i am touting my own horn, LOL, take a quick look in the assisted suicide thread, get another glimpse of me |
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Quote cats meow: i so agree sarah, no one should be judged regarding their decisions, i have to say,(it's so funny to be remembering all of this so long ago) many people judged me, especially the women i worked with, they were a bit older, i was mid 20's, and some had plenty to say, selfish, spoiled, lazy, one women had the nerve to ask me why i ever got married, i told her it was because i fell in love, i do regret one thing tho, being honest with my parents, they were heart broken (i am an only child), they thought they had somehow failed as parents, what they didn't realize at the time was they taught me to be honest and strong to make my own decisions, when my dad died and my mother came to live with us, she finally saw how happy we were, just the 2 of us, i know i made the right decision for me, i have nieces and nephews in my life and that is just perfect, i also say we should all support each other in whatever choices we have made Cats, I completely understand how you felt when people called you selfish for choosing not to have children. I got married young and have been married now for nearly 30 years. We thought about children, but made the decision not to have a family. I completed college, went to graduate school and have had a fantastic career and a nice life. We've got nieces and nephews that we love dearly (ok, maybe we spoil them a little bit) but I know that I am not mommy material. Oddly enough, my husband probably would have been a stay at home dad because he's fantastic with kids. Having a family is a personal decision that has no right or wrong answer! |
grits1976![]() |
I love being a mom but like I always say God gave a woman 2 hands, 2 arms, 2 sides, 2 ears and 2 eyes,; so she only needs 2 kids. |
Sunnydaz![]() |
Quote grits1976: I love being a mom but like I always say God gave a woman 2 hands, 2 arms, 2 sides, 2 ears and 2 eyes,; so she only needs 2 kids. I wish there weren't 8 years between my 2 but sometimes I'm glad there is b/c I got time w/ each one of them when they were/are little. Ash and I are close and I hope that continues through her teens. But whatever a woman chooses kids & family or Career these 2 groups of women should support each other not fight amonst each other. Then call me "Cyclop Sunny" ~ 1 hand, 1 arm, 1 side, 1 ear and 1 eye,; so I only need 1 kid!!!!!!!!!!! LOL |
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