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Eptopic prenency would never = a full term or even mid term baby because once it gets to big the tube would burst causing death for both mother and child. I am not talking about that and to compare that to the real issue I won't even say it I'd get banned!!! The real issue is woman going out with every tom dick and harry and not thinking about what can happen! and when the stick turns pink they so ah another trip to the clinic! Like there is nothing wrong with their actions! I do not believe in abortion! I would not have one unless medically necessary to save my life(even that in some instances for myself I would risk it for my child if they had a chance @ life). I understand that sometimes it is medically necessary to have abortions and I think even my God would understand that! Abortion is treated like birth control in this country and to me the thought of picking and choosing my children by eliminating ones who come @ inoportune times by my own stupidity is sheer and utter NONSENSE!!! My 1st commandment is Though shalt not Kill. I may not go to church every week or read a bible and know it thouroughly but what I do know is that for myself if I can follow these simple commandments to the best of my ability than I will be a better person for it and hopefully someday be admitted to heaven to live with my God for all eternity and if that sounds dumb I really don't care!!!

Ok how about being pregnant with a perfect healthy baby..but mom finds out if she carries that baby any longer it WILL indeed l kill her. What then? There are reasons for abortions. I don't approve of it being used for birth control.
I will tell you this, at almost 45 if I got pregnant right now...there would be serious discussions whether or not I would have that baby.

If anyone finds anything worth reading about Sotomayor, please post. I haven't found that much but I imagine there will be more as her confirmation grows closer.

As far as abortion, we can & will all go round & round about hypothetical cases. For me, the bottom line is that I know abortion will always be legal in certain situations. My main gripe is that currently we allow abortion for any reason & life is completely devalued b/c of this & the idea that sex has real consequences is lost b/c, well, when you can abort the child you don't have to deal with the consequences. Even the most ardent pro-choicers say that abortion should be 'rare,' but as long as we allow women to abort (some of them more than once), how can we ever hope it will be rare when it is viewed by some as an acceptable way to deal with a night of careless sex?

I am not fighting for the right for women to willy nilly kill their unborn...I am fighting for your right to choose.....you cant have it both ways....if you want the right to choose to abort a tubal pregnancy, and pregnancy as a result of rape or incest.....then you are PRO CHOICE!!!! it is not about just killing innocent children...it is about ensuring and up holding your right to choose what is best for you.....You CHOOSE to never have an abortion under any circumstances...I am merely pointing out the flaw in your argument......that in fact if you were to have a ectopic pregnancy....then you would CHOOSE to abort the embryo.....I have heard many times on this board that the pro lifers believe that life is created at the time of conception...therefore aborting anything after that is murder...well an embryo in your tubes....is in this case not a life at conception??? do you realize it could be 6 weeks or more before you were told it was in your fallopian tubes??? so I guess what I am saying is that, I think you cant have it both ways.....sorry but those are the actual facts...you cannot control the world...even if you are the President of the US.....women should have the right to choose.....no one is saying that your CHOICE is a bad one.....just pointing out that it is YOUR CHOICE! why is that so hard to understand?

I have no concessions. I don't think ectopic pregnancies that are ended are even included in abortion statistics b/c that would be highly misleading...since these women likely want their child and since the child will not develop. The child will die one way or another.

I don't think there is any situation that an abortion improves (Abortion being defined as ending a pregnancy that would otherwise continue to term). You are always left with a baby whose life has been cut short & a woman who, unless she is completely callous, will have emotional issues the rest of her life & potentially have health problems that prevent future children.

Abortion is primarily a method of birth control. Allowing countless babies to perish by claiming that otherwise, women who suffer an ectopic pregnancy might not be able to end that pregnancy makes no sense. The government can regulate the he11 out of everything else, & I am certain stricter abortion standards would not prevent women from ending a pregnancy that has zero chance of going full term anyway.

Rei - regarding your post on Sotomayor being pro-life:

While she has never stated one way or the other her position on abortion, she is making some folks nervous. I will post articles as I find them, but the few rulings she's made on this issue trend to the pro-life side.

Souter was assumed to be pro-life. This was a faulty assumption (he ruled with the libs in 1992's Planned Parenthood v. Casey -en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_v._Casey )

...what a riot if his successor ends up siding with the conservatives on this issue.