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Supreme Court pick

Started by cats meow at 2009/05/27 08:05AM
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#31   2009/06/02 01:11PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
wannazach
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I have a quick question. Can the pro-lifers who continually change threads to that subject PLEASE tell us how many unwanted children they have? I would really love to know because I think that you must REALLY care about unwanted children coming into this world so that people like you can give them a loving caring home. I mean there is no reason why every pro-lifer has not adopted. Please let us see some pictures of your adopted children. Have any of you adopted the older and handicapped kids that have been in the system their entire lives? God bless all you wonderful people who care enough to take in the kids you save. Pro-lifers are wonderful people. They care enough about the children to not just make sure they are born but to make sure that they have loving parents, a good home and a wonderful life. I am surprised we even need orphanages with the way Pro-lifers are taking control of their stance on the issue. I want you all to know that God is proud of you for practicing what you preach and I am proud of you too. Thank you guys for giving the children you save a wonderful, wonderful life. Imo all you guys will definately be rewarded in heaven for being so kind to they children you save. "God Bless" you all for your kind caring hearts!

#32   2009/06/02 01:41PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
cats meow
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i am still waiting to see some facts that sotomayor is a closeted lesbian, not that it matters at all, but if you are going to write an article, back it up with facts

#33   2009/06/02 01:49PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
wannazach
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Quote cats meow: i am still waiting to see some facts that sotomayor is a closeted lesbian, not that it matters at all, but if you are going to write an article, back it up with facts


Imo this would only be brought up by predjudice people. WTF does her bedroom have to do with it??? I have said it before so here goes again. Stay OUT of other peoples bedroom!!! If your own bedroom is boring you so much you need to keep up with theirs then I say go rent a movie!

Cheers to Dick Cheneys' gay daughter and his pro gay marriage stance! I always knew that was how he felt all these years. He just knew that his party would massecre him if he was honest about it. Sad to have to keep your true feeling secret to avoid bs from your own party who elected you to your office. You go Dick!!! For once I am proud of you!

#34   2009/06/02 01:50PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
bigtimesoapfan
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Is she qualified? From the sounds of things she is, so Other than that I could care less!

#35   2009/06/02 02:23PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
cats meow
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amen to both of you

#36   2009/06/02 02:35PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
alwaysEJ
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Is she qualified? From the sounds of things she is, so Other than that I could care less!


What 'sounds' have you heard that let you know she is qualified? I mean next month as her confirmation hearings begin in the Senate one of her rulings is likely going to be reversed by the Supreme Court, & it won't be the first.

#37   2009/06/02 03:47PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
alwaysEJ
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Quote wannazach: I have a quick question. Can the pro-lifers who continually change threads to that subject PLEASE tell us how many unwanted children they have? I would really love to know because I think that you must REALLY care about unwanted children coming into this world so that people like you can give them a loving caring home. I mean there is no reason why every pro-lifer has not adopted. Please let us see some pictures of your adopted children. Have any of you adopted the older and handicapped kids that have been in the system their entire lives? God bless all you wonderful people who care enough to take in the kids you save. Pro-lifers are wonderful people. They care enough about the children to not just make sure they are born but to make sure that they have loving parents, a good home and a wonderful life. I am surprised we even need orphanages with the way Pro-lifers are taking control of their stance on the issue. I want you all to know that God is proud of you for practicing what you preach and I am proud of you too. Thank you guys for giving the children you save a wonderful, wonderful life. Imo all you guys will definately be rewarded in heaven for being so kind to they children you save. "God Bless" you all for your kind caring hearts!


Well I think the most appropriate response to this would be

Despite the sarcasm dripping from your post about a topic that is significant & controversial & has gripped this nation for decades, I will say this -

Your argument seems to be that abortion is a satisfactory means of eliminating children who would otherwise be born into poverty & perhaps be a drain on the system. The problem is, that is irrelevant to the question of abortion. The only question that matters is 'Is the baby aborted a human being?' If the answer is yes, then there are no other questions to ask since we already have laws protecting the lives of human beings, even the poor ones who are a drain on the system.

Also, last I checked you don't have to show the balance in your checkbook to qualify for an abortion. It is not just poor women who abort their children; there are plenty of women who could easily afford the child they kill, they simply don't want the child & they don't want to be bothered with carrying it for nine months & then giving it up for adoption. Assuming abortion is all about poverty is naive. Since abortion was legalized in the U.S., the welfare rolls have grown & the illegitimacy rates have skyrocketed.

The pro-choice argument is that it is not a human that is killed in an abortion, but rather a 'fetus,' a mass of cells. And really, what other argument can you make & still conclude that abortion should remain legal. "I support the killing of babies' does not make for a catchy picket sign. They want it to be about choice, but again, if it's a baby there is no choice anymore than I have the choice to kill my two year old b/c he's costing me money, or I simply don't have the time to deal with him. That would get me 25 to life.

Sadly, there are some pro-choicers who will admit, quietly, that what happens when an abortion is performed stops a beating heart & takes a baby's life, but they still feel abortion should remain an option. At least they are honest enough to admit what happens during an abortion.

#38   2009/06/02 04:02PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
wannazach
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote wannazach: I have a quick question. Can the pro-lifers who continually change threads to that subject PLEASE tell us how many unwanted children they have? I would really love to know because I think that you must REALLY care about unwanted children coming into this world so that people like you can give them a loving caring home. I mean there is no reason why every pro-lifer has not adopted. Please let us see some pictures of your adopted children. Have any of you adopted the older and handicapped kids that have been in the system their entire lives? God bless all you wonderful people who care enough to take in the kids you save. Pro-lifers are wonderful people. They care enough about the children to not just make sure they are born but to make sure that they have loving parents, a good home and a wonderful life. I am surprised we even need orphanages with the way Pro-lifers are taking control of their stance on the issue. I want you all to know that God is proud of you for practicing what you preach and I am proud of you too. Thank you guys for giving the children you save a wonderful, wonderful life. Imo all you guys will definately be rewarded in heaven for being so kind to they children you save. "God Bless" you all for your kind caring hearts!


Well I think the most appropriate response to this would be

Despite the sarcasm dripping from your post about a topic that is significant & controversial & has gripped this nation for decades, I will say this -

Your argument seems to be that abortion is a satisfactory means of eliminating children who would otherwise be born into poverty & perhaps be a drain on the system. The problem is, that is irrelevant to the question of abortion. The only question that matters is 'Is the baby aborted a human being?' If the answer is yes, then there are no other questions to ask since we already have laws protecting the lives of human beings, even the poor ones who are a drain on the system.

Also, last I checked you don't have to show the balance in your checkbook to qualify for an abortion. It is not just poor women who abort their children; there are plenty of women who could easily afford the child they kill, they simply don't want the child & they don't want to be bothered with carrying it for nine months & then giving it up for adoption. Assuming abortion is all about poverty is naive. Since abortion was legalized in the U.S., the welfare rolls have grown & the illegitimacy rates have skyrocketed.

The pro-choice argument is that it is not a human that is killed in an abortion, but rather a 'fetus,' a mass of cells. And really, what other argument can you make & still conclude that abortion should remain legal. "I support the killing of babies' does not make for a catchy picket sign. They want it to be about choice, but again, if it's a baby there is no choice anymore than I have the choice to kill my two year old b/c he's costing me money, or I simply don't have the time to deal with him. That would get me 25 to life.

Sadly, there are some pro-choicers who will admit, quietly, that what happens when an abortion is performed stops a beating heart & takes a baby's life, but they still feel abortion should remain an option. At least they are honest enough to admit what happens during an abortion.



????? There is no answer to my question in this entire reply. This is the same post that has been made in all the other threads. I would simply like to know WHY you and others who freely throw around the adoption word do not do it yourself. Why have so many pro-lifers not adopted one of these children that you fight to be born and put up for adoption. There is a beautiful little girl here who was born on Jan 6th this year. She is a meth baby. She is still trying to come off the addition and is a very pitiful sight to see. She requires special therapy 3 times a week as well a constant medical attention. Any sudden or loud noise sends her into seizures. Right now it is costing an average of $60,000 per year for her care. The cost will only get larger as she grows older. There will have to be special educations and speech therapies her entire life. Then there is also her lack of muscle tissue and her heart problems. She was taken at birth an put in foster care. He 1 year old sister was also taken because of meth and placed in another foster home. The dad to one of them is doing 11 years in the state pen and no one knows who the other childs dad is. You have many times stated you don't won't the government to issue wellfare or healthcare so I don't guess you want this kids to have that. Anyway, if I sent you a picture of these children and the address to Social Services as well as the name of the case worker, would you be willing to adopt them. That is my only question. I am confused why adoption is your and so many others choice but WHY is it not being done. That is my question????????

#39   2009/06/02 04:09PM
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I have never adopted a child b/c I am not married currently & I would not purposefully bring a child into a home with no father, whether it be my biological child or one I adopted.

I plan to adopt at least one child when I am married.

#40   2009/06/02 04:15PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote wannazach: I have a quick question. Can the pro-lifers who continually change threads to that subject PLEASE tell us how many unwanted children they have? I would really love to know because I think that you must REALLY care about unwanted children coming into this world so that people like you can give them a loving caring home. I mean there is no reason why every pro-lifer has not adopted. Please let us see some pictures of your adopted children. Have any of you adopted the older and handicapped kids that have been in the system their entire lives? God bless all you wonderful people who care enough to take in the kids you save. Pro-lifers are wonderful people. They care enough about the children to not just make sure they are born but to make sure that they have loving parents, a good home and a wonderful life. I am surprised we even need orphanages with the way Pro-lifers are taking control of their stance on the issue. I want you all to know that God is proud of you for practicing what you preach and I am proud of you too. Thank you guys for giving the children you save a wonderful, wonderful life. Imo all you guys will definately be rewarded in heaven for being so kind to they children you save. "God Bless" you all for your kind caring hearts!


Well I think the most appropriate response to this would be

Despite the sarcasm dripping from your post about a topic that is significant & controversial & has gripped this nation for decades, I will say this -

Your argument seems to be that abortion is a satisfactory means of eliminating children who would otherwise be born into poverty & perhaps be a drain on the system. The problem is, that is irrelevant to the question of abortion. The only question that matters is 'Is the baby aborted a human being?' If the answer is yes, then there are no other questions to ask since we already have laws protecting the lives of human beings, even the poor ones who are a drain on the system.

Also, last I checked you don't have to show the balance in your checkbook to qualify for an abortion. It is not just poor women who abort their children; there are plenty of women who could easily afford the child they kill, they simply don't want the child & they don't want to be bothered with carrying it for nine months & then giving it up for adoption. Assuming abortion is all about poverty is naive. Since abortion was legalized in the U.S., the welfare rolls have grown & the illegitimacy rates have skyrocketed.

The pro-choice argument is that it is not a human that is killed in an abortion, but rather a 'fetus,' a mass of cells. And really, what other argument can you make & still conclude that abortion should remain legal. "I support the killing of babies' does not make for a catchy picket sign. They want it to be about choice, but again, if it's a baby there is no choice anymore than I have the choice to kill my two year old b/c he's costing me money, or I simply don't have the time to deal with him. That would get me 25 to life.

Sadly, there are some pro-choicers who will admit, quietly, that what happens when an abortion is performed stops a beating heart & takes a baby's life, but they still feel abortion should remain an option. At least they are honest enough to admit what happens during an abortion.


c'mon Ej...even you don't really believe that (imo) malarkey you just threw out there......or do you....I mean you truly believe heart, soul and mind,....that a child born into poverty , abuse, and a life full of strife due to a handicap......is not relevant?,,,, simply because they are a human being? that there are no other relevant circumstances or questions that need to be asked?
and if you do believe that...then I am truly glad that the government, and laws see things differently...IMO.....and if the doctors ever (God forbid) tell you that there is something terribly wrong with the fetus you are carrying someday.....or that a violent rape resulted in that fetus...or your own 13 year old daughter comes to you and says....uhhh mom....I am pregnant......you will thankfully get to make that choice....even if you decide that your beliefs are more important than youre mental well being, or or your health, that may leave said child parent less.....or that its your daughters lot in life.....Then I will personally pay for the sky writing to be done in honor of this magnificent decision....which....will still remain a choice ..on your part...and as a pro life choicer....you are very welcome!~

#41   2009/06/02 04:17PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
wannazach
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Quote alwaysEJ: I have never adopted a child b/c I am not married currently & I would not purposefully bring a child into a home with no father, whether it be my biological child or one I adopted.

I plan to adopt at least one child when I am married.


But these children would be a h^ll of a lot better off with one parent than in an orphanage with no parent at all. They need the love and nuturing of a family of thier own. Anyone who has ever walked through a few of these places would know this. So, you feel that if it is not a married couple that wants them then too bad for them let them stay homeless and parent less??? Is that fair to the orphans?

#42   2009/06/02 04:22PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
alwaysEJ
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Quote raving:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote wannazach: I have a quick question. Can the pro-lifers who continually change threads to that subject PLEASE tell us how many unwanted children they have? I would really love to know because I think that you must REALLY care about unwanted children coming into this world so that people like you can give them a loving caring home. I mean there is no reason why every pro-lifer has not adopted. Please let us see some pictures of your adopted children. Have any of you adopted the older and handicapped kids that have been in the system their entire lives? God bless all you wonderful people who care enough to take in the kids you save. Pro-lifers are wonderful people. They care enough about the children to not just make sure they are born but to make sure that they have loving parents, a good home and a wonderful life. I am surprised we even need orphanages with the way Pro-lifers are taking control of their stance on the issue. I want you all to know that God is proud of you for practicing what you preach and I am proud of you too. Thank you guys for giving the children you save a wonderful, wonderful life. Imo all you guys will definately be rewarded in heaven for being so kind to they children you save. "God Bless" you all for your kind caring hearts!


Well I think the most appropriate response to this would be

Despite the sarcasm dripping from your post about a topic that is significant & controversial & has gripped this nation for decades, I will say this -

Your argument seems to be that abortion is a satisfactory means of eliminating children who would otherwise be born into poverty & perhaps be a drain on the system. The problem is, that is irrelevant to the question of abortion. The only question that matters is 'Is the baby aborted a human being?' If the answer is yes, then there are no other questions to ask since we already have laws protecting the lives of human beings, even the poor ones who are a drain on the system.

Also, last I checked you don't have to show the balance in your checkbook to qualify for an abortion. It is not just poor women who abort their children; there are plenty of women who could easily afford the child they kill, they simply don't want the child & they don't want to be bothered with carrying it for nine months & then giving it up for adoption. Assuming abortion is all about poverty is naive. Since abortion was legalized in the U.S., the welfare rolls have grown & the illegitimacy rates have skyrocketed.

The pro-choice argument is that it is not a human that is killed in an abortion, but rather a 'fetus,' a mass of cells. And really, what other argument can you make & still conclude that abortion should remain legal. "I support the killing of babies' does not make for a catchy picket sign. They want it to be about choice, but again, if it's a baby there is no choice anymore than I have the choice to kill my two year old b/c he's costing me money, or I simply don't have the time to deal with him. That would get me 25 to life.

Sadly, there are some pro-choicers who will admit, quietly, that what happens when an abortion is performed stops a beating heart & takes a baby's life, but they still feel abortion should remain an option. At least they are honest enough to admit what happens during an abortion.


c'mon Ej...even you don't really believe that (imo) malarkey you just threw out there......or do you....I mean you truly believe heart, soul and mind,....that a child born into poverty , abuse, and a life full of strife due to a handicap......is not relevant?,,,, simply because they are a human being? that there are no other relevant circumstances or questions that need to be asked?
and if you do believe that...then I am truly glad that the government, and laws see things differently...IMO.....and if the doctors ever (God forbid) tell you that there is something terribly wrong with the fetus you are carrying someday.....or that a violent rape resulted in that fetus...or your own 13 year old daughter comes to you and says....uhhh mom....I am pregnant......you will thankfully get to make that choice....even if you decide that your beliefs are more important than youre mental well being, or or your health, that may leave said child parent less.....or that its your daughters lot in life.....Then I will personally pay for the sky writing to be done in honor of this magnificent decision....which....will still remain a choice ..on your part...and as a pro life choicer....you are very welcome!~


Why would I take the time to type it if I didn't believe it?

Do we consider killing children who live in poverty after they are born?

I would never abort my child for any reason. I could not live with myself if I did. If I were raped, I don't know if I would keep the child but I would not end it's life b/c it should not pay for it's father's sin with it's life. If I were told my child was not normal in whatever way, no way would I think about aborting it. My grandmother was told my aunt would be retarded, & she is perfect...very intelligent actually.

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#43   2009/06/02 04:28PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
raving
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote raving:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote wannazach: I have a quick question. Can the pro-lifers who continually change threads to that subject PLEASE tell us how many unwanted children they have? I would really love to know because I think that you must REALLY care about unwanted children coming into this world so that people like you can give them a loving caring home. I mean there is no reason why every pro-lifer has not adopted. Please let us see some pictures of your adopted children. Have any of you adopted the older and handicapped kids that have been in the system their entire lives? God bless all you wonderful people who care enough to take in the kids you save. Pro-lifers are wonderful people. They care enough about the children to not just make sure they are born but to make sure that they have loving parents, a good home and a wonderful life. I am surprised we even need orphanages with the way Pro-lifers are taking control of their stance on the issue. I want you all to know that God is proud of you for practicing what you preach and I am proud of you too. Thank you guys for giving the children you save a wonderful, wonderful life. Imo all you guys will definately be rewarded in heaven for being so kind to they children you save. "God Bless" you all for your kind caring hearts!


Well I think the most appropriate response to this would be

Despite the sarcasm dripping from your post about a topic that is significant & controversial & has gripped this nation for decades, I will say this -

Your argument seems to be that abortion is a satisfactory means of eliminating children who would otherwise be born into poverty & perhaps be a drain on the system. The problem is, that is irrelevant to the question of abortion. The only question that matters is 'Is the baby aborted a human being?' If the answer is yes, then there are no other questions to ask since we already have laws protecting the lives of human beings, even the poor ones who are a drain on the system.

Also, last I checked you don't have to show the balance in your checkbook to qualify for an abortion. It is not just poor women who abort their children; there are plenty of women who could easily afford the child they kill, they simply don't want the child & they don't want to be bothered with carrying it for nine months & then giving it up for adoption. Assuming abortion is all about poverty is naive. Since abortion was legalized in the U.S., the welfare rolls have grown & the illegitimacy rates have skyrocketed.

The pro-choice argument is that it is not a human that is killed in an abortion, but rather a 'fetus,' a mass of cells. And really, what other argument can you make & still conclude that abortion should remain legal. "I support the killing of babies' does not make for a catchy picket sign. They want it to be about choice, but again, if it's a baby there is no choice anymore than I have the choice to kill my two year old b/c he's costing me money, or I simply don't have the time to deal with him. That would get me 25 to life.

Sadly, there are some pro-choicers who will admit, quietly, that what happens when an abortion is performed stops a beating heart & takes a baby's life, but they still feel abortion should remain an option. At least they are honest enough to admit what happens during an abortion.


c'mon Ej...even you don't really believe that (imo) malarkey you just threw out there......or do you....I mean you truly believe heart, soul and mind,....that a child born into poverty , abuse, and a life full of strife due to a handicap......is not relevant?,,,, simply because they are a human being? that there are no other relevant circumstances or questions that need to be asked?
and if you do believe that...then I am truly glad that the government, and laws see things differently...IMO.....and if the doctors ever (God forbid) tell you that there is something terribly wrong with the fetus you are carrying someday.....or that a violent rape resulted in that fetus...or your own 13 year old daughter comes to you and says....uhhh mom....I am pregnant......you will thankfully get to make that choice....even if you decide that your beliefs are more important than youre mental well being, or or your health, that may leave said child parent less.....or that its your daughters lot in life.....Then I will personally pay for the sky writing to be done in honor of this magnificent decision....which....will still remain a choice ..on your part...and as a pro life choicer....you are very welcome!~


Why would I take the time to type it if I didn't believe it?

Do we consider killing children who live in poverty after they are born?

I would never abort my child for any reason. I could not live with myself if I did. If I were raped, I don't know if I would keep the child but I would not end it's life b/c it should not pay for it's father's sin with it's life. If I were told my child was not normal in whatever way, no way would I think about aborting it. My grandmother was told my aunt would be retarded, & she is perfect...very intelligent actually.


well...Ill go get an sky writer on retainer then...just say the word....and ill have it do a fly by !!!

#44   2009/06/02 07:14PM
Re: Supreme Court pick
rei1
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When I was pregnant with both of my children I told the doc that I don't want the results of any of the tests they did to detect deformity....I knew I was pregnant and knew that I was going to have a baby..that's all I needed to know!

I'm not advising anyone to do what I did, I just wanted to say that what I was carrying was a child and whatever God saw fit for me to have was what I was going to have. If the doc's said to me that my child was deformed in anyway I would still have the child.I didn't need a bloodtest to test my convictions.

I walk the walk. We may not have enough money to raise another child, but we do sponser children that are very needy....to assume that All pro-life people are hypocrits, really makes a person look awefully ....well I won't say it!

#45   2009/06/02 07:24PM
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raving
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Quote rei1: When I was pregnant with both of my children I told the doc that I don't want the results of any of the tests they did to detect deformity....I knew I was pregnant and knew that I was going to have a baby..that's all I needed to know!

I'm not advising anyone to do what I did, I just wanted to say that what I was carrying was a child and whatever God saw fit for me to have was what I was going to have. If the doc's said to me that my child was deformed in anyway I would still have the child.I didn't need a bloodtest to test my convictions.

I walk the walk. We may not have enough money to raise another child, but we do sponser children that are very needy....to assume that All pro-life people are hypocrits, really makes a person look awefully ....well I won't say it!


well....that is not the brightest idea,....regardless of what you know medically about your unborn child...if you are true to your convictions then it should not matter what the results are to you....but to not have them and be woefully unprepared for a a child with say a cleft pallet....or a child missing some chromosomes....that is just silly and irresponsible....medicine has come so far....of course you should find out...when you put it that way it makes it sound as if, had you known anything, you might have aborted....or given the child up for adoption.....

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