As the World Turns - MESSAGE BOARDS

I have to agree that they made a big out of nothing,but maybe if were someone else, it would be ok. Carly and Lily have a track record of lying so that are going to get called out on any little thing, unfortunately.

Lily and Carly didnt do anything wrong. they were just trying to do the best thing for lily and holden. and just making time to have some fun.

Carly and Lily did not do anything wrong. They planned a nice little surprise for Holden and romantic dinner with his wife. There was nothing wrong with that and Holden over reacted big time!

I totally agree that both Holdan and Jack need to lighten up. Carly and Lily did nothing wrong. Oh wow! Poor Holdan had to make love with his wife. Puleez. Jack and Holdan both need to take a laxative. The show is really becoming as flat as Holdan's personality. I hope they start to do something soon or I'm going to start watching old movies!

OH, Holden is getting a little to ....something...Ok, I understand he needs "time"...Ok...But don't keep pushing her away in order to have that time; b/c it's almost like he's trying to push her off of him...and that's not good, especially if he WANTS his marriage back; which we all know he does....But why doesn't he at least tell her it's just not time to make love or touch; he could explain it better; instead making her feel like she's totally destroyed their lives....she made a mistake; but she does want to correct it, and she does love Holden... He does have high standards; too high....especially for a woman he's supposed to " be with forever"...apparently he's trying ot say maybe he doesn't want her anymore, and if that's the case; why doesn't he just come out and say it? And if does want his family back; he needs to forgive her; afterall, they do have kids together; and if he REALLY wants to make it work; he should TRY....well; let's see what the writers are going to do.... and poor Carly....she just needs to tell lilly "NO!!" next time, no matter what; if she wants to keep her friendship, Carly wasn't thinking, but her heart was in the right place, she loves her friends, and I'm sorry....but , uh, Jack just needs to NOT worry about Carly, considering they ARE NOT together.....he only needs to worry about his kids, that's IT.

No, they did nothing wrong. Lilly didn't make Holden sleep with her either. What is the big deal. Holden came to Lilly on his own. All she did was make sure there were no interruptions. So where is the crime. Holden and Jack both are a$$-holes. No other explanation.

Hey all! No, Carly and Lily didn't do anything wrong! I don't know what is wrong with a friend helping out another friend. That is all Carly did. Jack was just upset because he felt needed and realized he really wasn't. I think they need to get over Carly and Lily's past and realize what they did wasn't a crime. Holden took full advantage of the situation. If he didn't want to sleep with Lily, he wouldn't have. He certainly wouldn't have taken upstairs for round two either.

Carly was suckered into helping Lily. Did you see how manipulative Lily was with her? It was almost like Lily wasn't going to let her say no or their friendship was going to be over. She even said some hurtful things to Carly about Jack just trying to get her into the plot. If I were Carly I would have had a tough time deciding too. On one had she's got Lily who helped her with a lot of things and then her new friend, Holden. If it were me I would have stuck up for Holden and told Lily to do her plotting herself, but it was a rock and a hard place. Blame Lily- NOT Carly. (I'm sure that plee will be unheard per usual).

I don't think what Carly and Lily did was so wrong. These days, it's hard for couples with kids to have ANY alone time. Holden should have been flattered that Lily went through so much trouble to get some private time alone with him! And it's not like she forced him into having sex! He seemed pretty willing. She and Carly just set the stage, that's all. Yes it's wrong to lie to your spouse. But did anyone really truly get hurt here? It' perfectly normal for couples to drop their kids off at a friend's house for the night in order to have some privacy. To me, it's just plain sad that Lily even had to resort to scheming in the first place. If this marriage is over, end it. Otherwise, own up to it!

Im so tired of holden and jack. If they are so much better than everyone..they need to become hermits in a cave together and leave everyone else alone! Holden being upset with lilly was just ridiculous. IMO any man who had that surprise..(wether he wanted it or not) woulda been thrilled!
what a couple of dorky, whiny..and now unattractive men these two are...too bad..i like a real man.

Willow..love ur pic

It's sad that everybody thinks they did nothing wrong when they did. They lied and manipulated to make it happen. Holden told her if she would have let him come to her on his own, which he would have in time, that would have been the best but no she had to scheme to get what she wanted. She's not even really over Dusty and I think deep down he knows it so he had a right to hold back IMO. Go ahead, throw rocks I don't care!!