As the World Turns - MESSAGE BOARDS

I agree !!!!!!!! tricking her is wrong... and wasnt it janet who said liberty was to YOUNG to be a WIFE????? hummmmm
whats up?? it really shows the pressure that everyone puts one a young woman, even if its supposed to be YOUR CHOICE>.

[quote]Quote NoNuke4me: [quote]Quote hello goodbye: [quote]Quote Tammer: [quote]Quote hello goodbye: [quote]Quote Tammer: [quote]Quote hello goodbye: [quote]Quote Tammer: [quote]Quote tigers3: no Janet is being a scumma for a momma. She only cares about herself. She doesnt care about anyone else..[/quote]

No Janet does care about her daughter, she's a wonderful mother!
I don't think she is a "bad" mother for her beliefs.. but she should not push them on her daughter.[/quote]

If you do not push your beliefs on your kids, then who should? The drug dealer down the road. How about the gang members. Get serious we all push our beliefs on our kids. It is called RAISING them. There is NOTHING wrong with Janet's parenting. It is nosy busybodies who try to make it wrong.[/quote]

You should never PUSH your beliefs on your children, you can share them and let them make their own choices. We are talking about teens here.
I have never forced my children. I would never take away their right to choose.
You "teach" kids values and a sense of what's right or wrong, you do not force them spiritually.
If your child doesn't believe in God for instance, should we force them too? You can give them the tools they need and hope the hell they listened.
Janet is a good mom, but she is trying to push what she feels is right on her daughter who doesn't agree with her mother's advice.[/quote]

For fun. Lets say your teen child is on crack. Because you BELIEVE it is wrong and your child doesn't what do you do? Run out and buy it for him/her? Should you give him/her the money for it. I know, you should support their decision because that's what a good parent does. After all you have to be a good parent and your kids cannot get mad at you. So think long and hard about this. Do not say it is not the same thing because it is.[/quote]

First of all I want to tell you that you are FAR too aggressive with your posts, you are borderline attacking.
When posting you should tone it down some...others aren't quite as nice about being jumped on.
Ok... ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!!
Doing drugs is firstly, illegal, it has NOTHING to do with what a person believes in.
Secondly, you are being extremely presumptuous thinking that telling a drug addict is going to make a difference, regardless of what your "beliefs" are.
If my child were on crack I wouldn't have the "tools" to help them,...therefore I would TRY to get them help.
THAT is what a GOOD parent does!
I taught my children (27& 22) what was right and wrong when they were young. Once a child reaches a certain age you have very little control over them, especially teens!
I did my job extremely well.
Example, I don't think people should smoke, it's disgusting and it can kill not only the person smoking but ME too.
I believe everyone that smokes(pregnant women included) contributes to air pollution at can kill other humans over time and exposure.
Can I force that opinion or "belief" on smokers..HELL NO!
Get my point?[/quote]

If my child were on crack I wouldn't have the "tools" to help them,...therefore I would TRY to get them help.
That is what Janet is doing.[/quote]

Did I miss something, is Liberty smoking crack?[/quote]


That's to funny

Whether you believe in abortion or not Janet is being a terrible mother because she refuses to listen to Liberty desires for her own life and she is bringing every Tom, Dick and Harry into something that is just none of their business! If I were Liberty I would be horrified by this. Uncle whoever, (not really an uncle I don't think) has put his two cents in. Janet hasn't seen this man in what, almost 20 years and now he is a confidant? Really!

Liberty has done everything that Janet has insisted that she do and the woman is still going behind her back and getting Uncle Ralphie to do her dirty work for her. Today Liberty tried to talk to her about adoption, but it was not what Janet wanted to hear so she does her normal babble thing and goes behind Libertys back and interfers once again...I am thru with her. Thought that she might be right and that she had Libertys best interest in mind, but scratch that, she is out for Janet and only Janet. Poor Liberty, she cannot win for losing in this and no matter what she wants, Janet is not going to allow it. This only will teach any young girl that is watching that they should not confide in their parents, Jack and Janet are just horrible examples in this situation!!

JANET IS SO SELFISH!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't care if you believe in abortion or not, this has nothing to do with that now.


Janet is basically forcing her daughter to have a child she doesn't want. OK I get that, but then when Liberty agrees to give the baby up, Janet basically thinks its her decision. And now she's talking crazy and TELLING (not really asking) Jack that they should raise the baby.

OK I no its great when teens have babies and there family is there to help. But it seems that Janet would want to raise the baby as her own. There's no way in hell that that won't *uck Liberty up for the rest of her life. Also when the child is older and finds out that Liberty is really the mother and not the sister, it's going to screw with his or her head.

Liberty is doing what Janet wants and having the baby, now its time for Janet to back off and let Liberty make her own choice.

i tatally agree with my girl janet all the way...she just doesnt want the baby with paul and that biaoch emily so whats up with everyone who dissapproves of what janet is doing.....so in my oppion janet is doing everything like a mother should for her daughter and yes i do have a teenage daughter myself and i would do what janet has been doing.

Janet is also being a bad wife right now, poor Jack, he will not have one ounce of say in this, why was he not like that with Carly? Janet is the most pushy, selfish, narrow minded, person and her relationship with her daughter is going to be ruined and she might never be able to get it back......but she so deserves that!

Any one that is saying they would do the same thing with their daughter, might want to watch the outcome of this cause it ain't gonna be pretty!!! Janet is 100% wrong on this and I pray that Liberty stays strong and does not let her bully her around anymore!! Janet stands a big chance of losing Liberty for good, that is what being selfish will do for you!!

Janet is being over controling all the way around.If she would just stop and listen one time and hear what Liberty is saying this could be settled once and for all.
I posted that Janet would want to be in control of raisinig the child and Jack would not really have any say so no matter what.
Liberty can choose who she wants or not want to parent her child.
If Janet and Jack did decide to raise the child the child could be taught who is mom and who is grandmother.Many grandmothers raise their grandchild these days.I have no problem with that at all.As the child get old enough they can they can explain that they love her or him and just wanted her to be raised in the family and her mother to continue on her career.They ddid not want to part with the child .Life goes on and nobody dies.