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Johnny's Father?
Started by gaps at 2009/05/07 02:41PMLatest post: 2009/05/28 02:43PM, Views: 1003, Replies: 40
coin_laundry |
I guess I'm on the blackball list cause all my post keep getting deleted and I said basically the same thing as the other poster, that Craig is using Johnny to get what he wants from Carly. This is what I was talking about, I thought we could express our opinions about the show without getting edited. |
Kristi (Admin) moderator |
Quote coin_laundry: I guess I'm on the blackball list cause all my post keep getting deleted and I said basically the same thing as the other poster, that Craig is using Johnny to get what he wants from Carly. This is what I was talking about, I thought we could express our opinions about the show without getting edited. As far as my hatred for Craig and it clouding my judgment, I'm pretty sure that works both ways. Judgment can be clouded by the love of someone also. "IF" I give you a dollar Joe will you give me a cup of coffee? I'm trading one thing to get another, Craig is trading his son to get what he wants he is Craig is pond scum. Coin_Laundry, your posts have not been deleted and you're not being black-balled ... your post above was edited by site admin for posting against guidelines and then you edited that edit, which is not allowed. Please refresh your memory as to the website guidelines and you won't have any problems. Thanks! Kristi Site Admin |
Tammer |
Quote coin_laundry: I guess I'm on the blackball list cause all my post keep getting deleted and I said basically the same thing as the other poster, that Craig is using Johnny to get what he wants from Carly. This is what I was talking about, I thought we could express our opinions about the show without getting edited. As far as my hatred for Craig and it clouding my judgment, I'm pretty sure that works both ways. Judgment can be clouded by the love of someone also. "IF" I give you a dollar Joe will you give me a cup of coffee? I'm trading one thing to get another, Craig is trading his son to get what he wants he is Craig is pond scum. I don't mind posting with you at all. I like that we have a different opinion, however I just want to add I don't "love" Craig. I like him and there was a time that wasn't so. If he came back all dark and conniving I would be right along side of you berating him. I just feel that isn't the case this time. I think he is a really good father despite his past. Let me ask you this, if Craig didn't have a past, and he was the kind of father his is to Johnny..would you still feel he was a bad parent? I honestly don't think you would...and I say this is the most respectful way. All I'm saying is that I am judging him without looking at the lying cheating manipulating creep he was before..and yes I hated his character then too. I really feel he loves that boy and is doing good by him. I also believe he loves Carly and his gesture to Dusty was a way for him to prove he is trying to be a good person. Would Dusty have done the same? No. He said that after he got Johnny. So I have to give credit where its due. That's all I'm sayin, you are free to hate him, I would never try to change your opinion about that...but I will debate you. 
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calliope |
Good post Tammer!! |
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coin_laundry |
Pretend yesterday was the first time you'd ever watched the show and you heard Craig say "if I was to let Dusty see Johnny is that the kind of person you could be with?" Now that sounds like he is using Johnny as means to get what he wants. Carly told him to stay away and what does he do he shows up with Johnny to ask Carly for a cookie. Now if that isn't using your son to get what you want I don't know what is. Here is another thing that sticks in my craw, when Craig came back his first act was blackmailing Katie and setting Brad up. Now I understand everyone saying he has changed, but he hasn't admitted what he did so IMO everyday he is lying to the people in his life. When Jack broke the law and took the evidence to keep Brad from going to jail he owned up to it. When Craig was being accused for the gun thing Lucy came forward and was willing to tell the truth even though she might go to jail. When Craig steps up and admits what he did to Katie and Brad I'll get off his back until then everyday is lying day for Craig. I'm looking forward to the spin that is going to be put on my comments. |
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Tammer |
Quote coin_laundry: Pretend yesterday was the first time you'd ever watched the show and you heard Craig say "if I was to let Dusty see Johnny is that the kind of person you could be with?" Now that sounds like he is using Johnny as means to get what he wants. Carly told him to stay away and what does he do he shows up with Johnny to ask Carly for a cookie. Now if that isn't using your son to get what you want I don't know what is. Here is another thing that sticks in my craw, when Craig came back his first act was blackmailing Katie and setting Brad up. Now I understand everyone saying he has changed, but he hasn't admitted what he did so IMO everyday he is lying to the people in his life. When Jack broke the law and took the evidence to keep Brad from going to jail he owned up to it. When Craig was being accused for the gun thing Lucy came forward and was willing to tell the truth even though she might go to jail. When Craig steps up and admits what he did to Katie and Brad I'll get off his back until then everyday is lying day for Craig. I'm looking forward to the spin that is going to be put on my comments. No I don't think it looks that way at all. taking into account how much Craig hates Dusty and Dusty Craig...I still stand by my opinion. Craig loves Carly and he wants to show her he can make good decisions. Carly makes him a better person. She always did have that affect on him. Yes what he did to Brad was bad, but I am basing my opinions on the fact he has changed now. I'm not dwelling in the past...for now. This is my opinion, I'm not trying to change yours, but I can see where you are coming from. |
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Tammer |
Ok seriously why was my post marked bad? I was nothing but respectful to coin. |
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Tammer |
Quote calliope: Good post Tammer!!  Thanks Calliope!! |
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coin_laundry |
I see things in a more black and white frame, I listen to the words that come out of his mouth and I don't say well he said this but I know he meant something else. I can't respect someone who want take responsiblities for their actions and Craig is the kind of person who always has his eye on the big picture and whats in it for him. He would have never given Lucy a second thought if Carly hadn't with held "lunch" from him. Once she asked Craig to go without having "lunch" he quickly changed his tune. |
IloveRafe |
Quote gaps: What's the deal with Johnny's father on ATWT. Is it Craig or Dusty? Craig. Dusty is Johnny's adopted father. So I guess...both. |
Tubby The Tuba |
I like Craig & He is smart but there are certain things in his Parenting Habits He Needs to Improve on But I think He is Doing O.K. He Needs to look for a house with a Fenced backyard |
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