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I am glad that it is out......

Started by LTsoapfan at 2009/05/06 02:44PM
Latest post: 2009/05/07 08:54AM, Views: 310, Replies: 10
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#1   2009/05/06 02:44PM
I am glad that it is out......
LTsoapfan
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That the baby is Henry & V's and there is no more deceit. I felt sorry for Katie & Brad but I was proud of Henry for finally stepping up and it is good to see him excited about being a father.

I think in time their friendships will be restored when Katie sees how happy Henry & Vienna are as parents.

#2   2009/05/06 04:52PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
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I'm glad it's out also, I think Katie is going to change her mind and want the baby and we'll end up having a custody fight between Vienna and Henry because Vienna will want to give the baby to Katie when Katie gets over her head trip.

#3   2009/05/06 05:05PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
GoldenGirl24
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Quote coin_laundry: I'm glad it's out also, I think Katie is going to change her mind and want the baby and we'll end up having a custody fight between Vienna and Henry because Vienna will want to give the baby to Katie when Katie gets over her head trip.


Why is Katie in a head trip? Her anger is justified. As much as I love Vienna and Henry, and I do, what they did was wrong. Period! They should have told Katie and Brad the insemination didn't work so that they could have tried it again or go from there instead of lying. But I am happy that the secret is out. The way I see it, the only way they, Katie/Brad, can get over it and become friends again with Henry and Vienna is if Katie becomes pregnant. You know how soaps love those "miracle pregnancies." I always believed and still do that Katie will have Brad's baby.

#4   2009/05/06 05:16PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
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Quote GoldenGirl24:
Quote coin_laundry: I'm glad it's out also, I think Katie is going to change her mind and want the baby and we'll end up having a custody fight between Vienna and Henry because Vienna will want to give the baby to Katie when Katie gets over her head trip.


Why is Katie in a head trip? Her anger is justified. As much as I love Vienna and Henry, and I do, what they did was wrong. Period! They should have told Katie and Brad the insemination didn't work so that they could have tried it again or go from there instead of lying. But I am happy that the secret is out. The way I see it, the only way they, Katie/Brad, can get over it and become friends again with Henry and Vienna is if Katie becomes pregnant. You know how soaps love those "miracle pregnancies." I always believed and still do that Katie will have Brad's baby.


Vienna didn't tell her because she didn't want Katie and Brad to be self conscious about the baby. She wanted them to love the baby like it was their own instead of like it was given to them by Henry and Vienna. Vienna didn't have to agree to it to start with and Katie should remember that, she was doing them a favor. Even after Katie found out she still offered the baby to them and Katie turned them down so either she doesn't really want a baby or she is on a head trip.

#5   2009/05/06 06:01PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
GoldenGirl24
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Quote coin_laundry

Vienna didn't tell her because she didn't want Katie and Brad to be self conscious about the baby. She wanted them to love the baby like it was their own instead of like it was given to them by Henry and Vienna. Vienna didn't have to agree to it to start with and Katie should remember that, she was doing them a favor. Even after Katie found out she still offered the baby to them and Katie turned them down so either she doesn't really want a baby or she is on a head trip.


First of all, Vienna didn't do Katie a favor. Vienna OFFERED to have this baby for Katie. Katie didn't go running to her and begged her to carry her baby. In fact, after Katie had the miscarriage, Vienna came to her, in the hospital room, and said she would carry her baby for her. When they found out that Katie's eggs weren't viable, Vienna, again, OFFERED to use her own eggs. Katie agreed to it, yes, but it was Vienna who came up with the idea.

Secondly, I'm going to go back to why didn't they just tell Bratie that the insemination failed? They could have tried again and again and again until it worked or do something else. Now I'm not denying that Vienna isn't doing this for Katie. I know that she loves Katie and would do anything for her, as we are seeing, but let's call a spade a spade. What Vienna and Henry did was WRONG!! They lied and betrayed their best friends and that is that. What if something was wrong with the baby and he or she needed a transplant from an immediate family (i.e. mother and/or father)? Venry would have to lie some more and manipulate to keep this lie going and we all know lies beget lies.

All I'm saying is Katie has every right to be angry. She is not in a "head trip." Her anger is justified.

#6   2009/05/06 06:48PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
wendy_goes_fast
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If Vienna had told them the truth when they first found out there wouldn't have been a storyline worth showing, they had to lie to make it interesting. Vienna was wrong to lie to her but Katie did over react after Vienna said they would still let Brad and Katie have the baby. If she wants a baby she needs to swallow her pride and accept the baby from Vienna.

#7   2009/05/06 07:24PM
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Me too glad everyone knows everything. I hope Katie will come around and be Viennas friend again. I can feel for both sides. I like this s/l. Thats right if Henry and Vienna did not lie we would have no story. But as friends they should not have lied. Should have just said hey it failed. You try again. Thats all. Now we have a big mess.

I am glad Henry wants the baby. They cant give it to Brad and Katie, they we be torn up inside. What if they cant conceive another?

#8   2009/05/06 08:35PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
GLandWT
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I feel for both sides; however, I am glad that the truth is out and that Katie and Brad discovered it... I don't think friends should be put in a situation such as this s/l. I hope in time they can repair their friendship. I realize this is a soap, but good friends are hard to come by.

#9   2009/05/06 10:05PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
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Quote GoldenGirl24:
Quote coin_laundry: I'm glad it's out also, I think Katie is going to change her mind and want the baby and we'll end up having a custody fight between Vienna and Henry because Vienna will want to give the baby to Katie when Katie gets over her head trip.


Why is Katie in a head trip? Her anger is justified. As much as I love Vienna and Henry, and I do, what they did was wrong. Period! They should have told Katie and Brad the insemination didn't work so that they could have tried it again or go from there instead of lying. But I am happy that the secret is out. The way I see it, the only way they, Katie/Brad, can get over it and become friends again with Henry and Vienna is if Katie becomes pregnant. You know how soaps love those "miracle pregnancies." I always believed and still do that Katie will have Brad's baby.


Is there a reason Brad & Katie can't have their own baby? Guess I missed that part... Thanks

#10   2009/05/06 11:02PM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
GoldenGirl24
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Quote wendy_goes_fast: If Vienna had told them the truth when they first found out there wouldn't have been a storyline worth showing, they had to lie to make it interesting. Vienna was wrong to lie to her but Katie did over react after Vienna said they would still let Brad and Katie have the baby. If she wants a baby she needs to swallow her pride and accept the baby from Vienna.


Pride has nothing to do with why Katie's angry. First of all, I don't believe that this storyline was the only way it could be "interesting." When this storyline began and we saw that Vienna would use her egg and Brad's "boys" to carry a baby for Bratie I thought this alone would have been interesting enough. We could have seen Henry growing more and more attached to this baby that's not his or Katie growing more and more distant to the baby that's not hers. Maybe Vienna would have changed her mind and wanted to keep the baby. Who knows? There are a lot of different ways this storyline could have gone that would not include lies.

Secondly, once again I will have to take Katie's side on this. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was KATIE who lied to Vienna and Henry about carrying their baby when it was actually Brad's, you would have just accepted it? I don't understand how people don't get why she would, and SHOULD, be angry. She's not over-reacting. Her anger is justified. Now I'm not denying they are not going to get through this and become friends again. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be friends again. They are the only friendship in ATWT that i really love. You can see how much they love each other and they have been through a lot together, but Katie needs and deserves to be angry right now. She doesn't need to forgive them right now. She needs time and space to grieve for a baby she grew attached to.

Also, Vienna can't make the decision to give hers and Henry's child to Katie like that. Henry has a say in this, also. I thought it was sweet that Vienna would have given them her child. But Henry was not comfortable with that and wanted to keep his child. Katie saw that and that's one of the reasons why she said no. What if she did accept the baby and, down the road, Henry decided he just couldn't give Bratie his child? Now I know everybody would be up in arms screaming at Katie for trying to take Henry's child. She can never win.

Is there a reason Brad & Katie can't have their own baby? Guess I missed that part... Thanks


Brad and Katie can't have a baby because after her miscarriage, she found out that she didn't have viable eggs.

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#11   2009/05/07 08:54AM
Re: I am glad that it is out......
calliope
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Vienna and Henry should have told them the baby was Henry's right away. BUT Vienna thought Henry did not want the child and she knew Katie and Brad would love the baby. They were in the wrong by not coming clean.
This can be a very powerful story and we are so used to seeing Henry and Vienna doing slapstick comedy. I hope they (the writers) give us the seriousness this deserves. Trent and Ewa are good actors and I'm happy to see a story that lets them be serious, if only for a little while.

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