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Carly Called It (Monday, 5/4 Episode)
Started by Kristi (Admin) at 2009/05/04 11:56AMLatest post: 2009/05/07 02:37PM, Views: 987, Replies: 47
calliope |
Quote keytonblows: Fact: The guns were found in the vodka shipments that belong to Craig and possession is 9/10ths of the law. Fact: Craig has no one that can say yes I was with Craig from 3pm to 5pm on this day. Parker was only with him long enough to get the check and go. Fact: the guy worked for Craig Fact: Craig as a criminal history Fact: Jack hasn't created one drop of evidence, he is going by what is there, which is the guy worked for Craig, the guns were in shipments that belong to Craig. What police officer wouldn't suspect Craig?? Even his own sister suspects him. So get off Jack's back, because until some evidence surfaces that will point to someone else being involved Jack is just doing his job. There is no real evidence here. What you list would certainly make you suspicious but as a cop, you would have to follow up on that suspicion by finding real hard evidence. Jack is going to shoot himself in the foot if he keeps this up. |
coin_laundry |
All Jack can do is walk around the docks asking people what they saw and maybe talk to the people the guy worked with because there isn't a murder weapon that I know of so far the only two people in the picture that could be considered suspects are Carly and Craig. When the guy was killed was it shown on tv so we could see who did it? I thought there was a scene where the killer was walking away from the body. |
Kristi (Admin) moderator |
yeah, in the scene Cesar saw someone and that someone knifed him. We only saw the killer from the back, wearing a jacket and hoodie, if I remember correctly. |
Tammer |
Quote keytonblows: Quote Tammer: Quote keytonblows: Fact: The guns were found in the vodka shipments that belong to Craig and possession is 9/10ths of the law. Fact: Craig has no one that can say yes I was with Craig from 3pm to 5pm on this day. Parker was only with him long enough to get the check and go. Fact: the guy worked for Craig Fact: Craig as a criminal history Fact: Jack hasn't created one drop of evidence, he is going by what is there, which is the guy worked for Craig, the guns were in shipments that belong to Craig. What police officer wouldn't suspect Craig?? Even his own sister suspects him. So get off Jack's back, because until some evidence surfaces that will point to someone else being involved Jack is just doing his job. No he isn't! Jack is trying to find something to pin on Craig. The guy worked at the shipping docks..not for Craig. Jack has nothing concrete, and he is avoiding the truth just to keep Craig. Maybe Parker did it..he has been around that dock many times, he isn't exactly stable right now. Who knows, maybe he killed that guy, and the murder lad them to the gun smuggling ring. Hmm, there are TONS of scenarios. Fact is Lucy & Dusty know Craig is innocent, they have stated that. Now Dusty wants to make up evidence to frame Craig. Good job captain save a ho!  NO LUCY AND DUSTY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WITNESS THE MURDER AND FREDO DIDN'T CALL THEM AND SAY HEY I KILLED THE GUY, SO SAYING DUSTY AND LUCY KNOW IS NOT TRUE. Now that is said I can go back to regular type, why would any cop not look at Craig as a suspect? give me one good reason, does he have an air tight alibi for the entire span of time the murder took place?? NO, so you have a criminal eliment with no alibi and a direct connection to the shipment the guns were found in and a direct connection to the victum. I'm not saying this is case closed I'm just saying Jack has every right to suspect Craig. Maybe if you type in caps long enough you will convince us...  There is NO evidence that CRAIG did anything. Get my point? Again, maybe Parker did it? Does he have an alibi? Maybe Emma Snyder did it. Maybe Johnny did it too, he might be jealous of the time his father spends at work. Fact is you got nothin. |
NoNuke4me |
Maybe if I was an obsessive Craig fan I could make excuses for him too. I agree there is no evidence that points directly at Craig, but I think there is probably cause to hold him for questioning. There isn't enough evidence to arrest him and charge him with the crime but if there is probably cause they can hold him for 48 to 72 hours I think it is. I know they can hold him for questioning if for nothing else for the machine guns they found in the creates owned by Midnight Sun. |
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Tammer |
Quote NoNuke4me: Maybe if I was an obsessive Craig fan I could make excuses for him too. I agree there is no evidence that points directly at Craig, but I think there is probably cause to hold him for questioning. There isn't enough evidence to arrest him and charge him with the crime but if there is probably cause they can hold him for 48 to 72 hours I think it is. I know they can hold him for questioning if for nothing else for the machine guns they found in the creates owned by Midnight Sun. Who is obsessed? I think you are. JMO. I'm not obsessed with anything that is not real. Fact is there is nothing to hold Craig..no more than ANY other person that has been at that dock. Wait, I know Jack did it!! He is trying to get something to pin on Craig..That has to be it. He has access to police evidence, and he can cover his tracks like a pro. He has been at the dock countless times, and he is extremely jealous of Craig spending time with Carly. How many times have we heard Jack tell Carly that being in business with Craig is going to turn out bad? He's just making sure it does. See it works both ways. This is not about Craig's past. Jack has nothing, and it's WRONG to try and pin a crime on ANYONE without solid evidence. Or it could be Dusty... Or Lucy, poor innocent Lucy trying to get back at Daddy for taking Johnny away. |
keytonblows |
Why don't you just call a cop and ask him if they found a dead body lying next to a box of vodka and M-16 Rifles and the owner of the box had a criminal rap sheet a mile long would he suspect the owner of the box and see what his response is. uuhhhhh HELL YEAH I WOULD SUSPECT THE OWNER!! Bring him in for questioning and if they don't have an alibi for the time of the murder the suspicion would probably increase. |
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Tammer |
Quote keytonblows: Why don't you just call a cop and ask him if they found a dead body lying next to a box of vodka and M-16 Rifles and the owner of the box had a criminal rap sheet a mile long would he suspect the owner of the box and see what his response is. uuhhhhh HELL YEAH I WOULD SUSPECT THE OWNER!! Bring him in for questioning and if they don't have an alibi for the time of the murder the suspicion would probably increase. Oh by the way Jack and Parker both have an alibi and it isn't Craig. Jack was with Janet and Parker was buying a new sports car, bang bang shot a hole in the theory it could have been Jack or Parker. Wrong again. Parker was with Craig. And as you pointed out, It was between 3-5. Can anyone PROVE that Jack was with Janet that long? No. Can anyone PROVE that Parker was with his new car that long? No. They are both personally connected to the people that own that vodka..and BOTH have a motive to "get even" with Craig. |
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calliope |
Point is Craig had an alibi and Jack, the good cop, said "No I won't allow your alibi". What kind of cop does that? A not very good cop, that's for sure. Now, if Parker were accused by another cop and said Craig was his alibi, Jack would be all over Craig to give that alibi for Parker. |
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keytonblows |
Quote calliope: Point is Craig had an alibi and Jack, the good cop, said "No I won't allow your alibi". What kind of cop does that? A not very good cop, that's for sure. Now, if Parker were accused by another cop and said Craig was his alibi, Jack would be all over Craig to give that alibi for Parker. Where was Carly? Hmmm? She owns the vodka too. She has a history with a jewel theif who travels internationally. Maybe she is smuggling them for Simon. C'mon! Suspision can only take a cop so far, then he actually has to work for to find evidence. to address the other poster, Parker was only with Craig for about 10 minutes, just long enough for Craig to take him upstairs write the check and Parker took off to go get his car and I don't know when the last time was you bought a car but the paper work, picking out the car and the entire process takes at least 2 hours. Jack and Janet were at the farm cleaning the farm up and we all saw that with our own eyes. Carly(could be guilty) was with Sage at their house we all saw that, did anyone see where Craig was after Parker left? When Carly brought Parker to the police station Jack asked Parker where he was Parker told him, Jack asked how long he was there Parker said a few minutes and Jack said that leaves a couple hours for Craig to commit the murder do you have another alibi someone who can say they were with you the other portion of the time? NO. I'm not saying it isn't possible Dusty or Lucy could be the killer, I'm just saying it isn't impossible that Craig was the killer. For someone to say it is impossible that Craig killed the guy is ridiculous. |
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calliope |
I agree it is possible....I just wish Jack was handling things more professionally. |
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Tammer |
Quote keytonblows: Quote calliope: Point is Craig had an alibi and Jack, the good cop, said "No I won't allow your alibi". What kind of cop does that? A not very good cop, that's for sure. Now, if Parker were accused by another cop and said Craig was his alibi, Jack would be all over Craig to give that alibi for Parker. Where was Carly? Hmmm? She owns the vodka too. She has a history with a jewel theif who travels internationally. Maybe she is smuggling them for Simon. C'mon! Suspision can only take a cop so far, then he actually has to work for to find evidence. to address the other poster, Parker was only with Craig for about 10 minutes, just long enough for Craig to take him upstairs write the check and Parker took off to go get his car and I don't know when the last time was you bought a car but the paper work, picking out the car and the entire process takes at least 2 hours. Jack and Janet were at the farm cleaning the farm up and we all saw that with our own eyes. Carly(could be guilty) was with Sage at their house we all saw that, did anyone see where Craig was after Parker left? When Carly brought Parker to the police station Jack asked Parker where he was Parker told him, Jack asked how long he was there Parker said a few minutes and Jack said that leaves a couple hours for Craig to commit the murder do you have another alibi someone who can say they were with you the other portion of the time? NO. I'm not saying it isn't possible Dusty or Lucy could be the killer, I'm just saying it isn't impossible that Craig was the killer. For someone to say it is impossible that Craig killed the guy is ridiculous. Not one of us said he wasn't the murderer. What we said was that Jack is manufacturing evidence to put Craig away. He is also disallowing Parker as an alibi. It takes a very short time to stab someone, Parker had plenty of opportunity. Janet & Liberty were cleaning the farm, Jack was not always there. Furthermore that trashing the farm thing..stupid...Holden was on the phone with Emma while she was baking pies for Noah. Then we see Libby & Janet cleaning the kitchen saying..I'm so happy Emma didn't see this. STUPID. Anyone could have done this. Jack ignoring the facts is wrong. That is my point. |
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keytonblows |
I'm criminal investigator like some of the people here, but isn't motive taken into account when investigating a murder? What was Parker's motive? "I just got a $50,000 check I'm going to go down to the docks and kill a guy." Look if you want to say Parker killed the guy fine I'm not going to blow a gasket. If you want to say Jack did it fine, but you can't say Craig didn't do it and know that for sure. I remember Jack and Janet talking in the kitchen while Liberty was upstairs because I remember Jack holding a canister in his hand. |
SandraJ |
Quote keytonblows: Quote bigtimesoapfan: Quote keytonblows: Quote Tammer: Quote keytonblows: Do what you have to do to send him to prison Jack, make up evidence lean on some people whatever it takes as long as Craig goes away to prison, he has got off to many times in the past when he was guilty so whether he did it or not he deserves to go to prison. Then that makes Jack as bad as Craig was. He is innocent, saint Jack should take a chill pill! I guess Craig was innocent when he blew up Paul's car, I guess he was innocent when he ran Rosanna off the road, I guess he was innocent when he shot Paul in Vancouver, I could go on and on but you get the point. Craig has never paid his debt to society for all these crimes so if Jack can manufacture the evidence to get Craig put away then I say Jack is a hero. Even in the real world people change! Plus you can't pin a crime on someone Just because of Past offenses! Yes he did bad in te past but this is the present!! So Just live in it!! Have you ever heard of "preventative maintenance"? Jack putting Craig behind bars is just good preventative maintenance to keep Craig from committing future crimes that we all know he will commit. That's not law or justice. You cannot punish someone for a crime they "didn't" commit because you're ticked you couldn't punish them for the ones they did. |
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Tammer |
Quote keytonblows: I'm criminal investigator like some of the people here, but isn't motive taken into account when investigating a murder? What was Parker's motive? "I just got a $50,000 check I'm going to go down to the docks and kill a guy." Look if you want to say Parker killed the guy fine I'm not going to blow a gasket. If you want to say Jack did it fine, but you can't say Craig didn't do it and know that for sure. I remember Jack and Janet talking in the kitchen while Liberty was upstairs because I remember Jack holding a canister in his hand. Just curious what evidence has Jack manufactured? If you go back and watch the episode again you'll see Jack asked Parker where he was, Parker told him and then Jack said fine that still leaves a window of opportunity. So Jack did take the information from Parker but it wasn't sufficent to clear Craig. If Craig had gone car shopping with Parker that would have been an air tight alibi, but he didn't. Firstly, that was Janet holding the canister...talking to Libby. Jack was not there during this time. Secondly, I didn't now or ever say Craig couldn't have murdered that dock worker. What I said was, Jack has no evidence to hold Craig. Jack REFUSED to call Parker for Craig's alibi, Carly brought him in....and Jack STILL made excuses about Craig's innocence. There wasn't enough to clear him, well there wasn't enough to convict either. All circumstantial. And he was WRONG for refusing Parker's involvement in the first place. What kind of cop does that? Thirdly, I didn't say Jack manufactured evidence, I said IF he does that makes him worse than Craig. Parker had PLENTY of reason to get back at Craig if he chose to. Craig was one of the people he blamed for his break-up with Libby. What better alibi then to say "no way Craig is a good guy," "look he gave me 50.000$ of my money." Plenty of scenarios. The point is, there are many people that had a motive(and I never said any of them were guilty), Dusty more than Craig...and there is just as much circumstantial evidence on all of them..actually more motive for Dusty. |
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