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Greenlee's selfish...

Started by liasonfourever at 2008/05/22 10:44AM
Latest post: 2008/05/31 05:09AM, Views: 1297, Replies: 74
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#41   2008/05/29 03:25PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
ryleeaileero...
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Quote lsmith1967: You see all those hasty remarkes made above just because two people have opinions of their own..Sud n duds spoke what she thought.. and because you are a ryan and greenlee fan you didn't like what she said..you're the one that came back to suds comment with "you must be mother theresa" thats sounds to me you wanted to start an argument..i'm suprised you didn't say something to pdames4 for saying it was cute! oh wait she is a moderator! You didn't want to bully her like you did Sud n duds..The fact of all this is..everyone has their opionion sometimes they will agree with you and sometimes they won't..You could have gotten your point across to suds in a different tune..then she wouldn't have taken it as you were starting a argument with her. Lets keep fair for us all..Please!


O K... That was adressed with Sud-n-duds. I really don't see how it affects anyone but the 2 of us and where you come in all of this... I didn't respond to pdames comment of it being cute, because that's all she said. She didn't state an opinion one way or another. I have tno problem telling people what I think whether they be moderators or not. Sud-n-duds didn't feel bullied or she would have said so herself. I HAVE agreed to disagree with her (whom it really concerns), which is why I'm a little confused by this post... Oh well you can't please everyone... I certainly don't wish to.

#42   2008/05/29 03:30PM
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Quote ryleeaileeronikfan:
Quote lsmith1967: You see all those hasty remarkes made above just because two people have opinions of their own..Sud n duds spoke what she thought.. and because you are a ryan and greenlee fan you didn't like what she said..you're the one that came back to suds comment with "you must be mother theresa" thats sounds to me you wanted to start an argument..i'm suprised you didn't say something to pdames4 for saying it was cute! oh wait she is a moderator! You didn't want to bully her like you did Sud n duds..The fact of all this is..everyone has their opionion sometimes they will agree with you and sometimes they won't..You could have gotten your point across to suds in a different tune..then she wouldn't have taken it as you were starting a argument with her. Lets keep fair for us all..Please!


O K... That was adressed with Sud-n-duds. I really don't see how it affects anyone but the 2 of us and where you come in all of this... I didn't respond to pdames comment of it being cute, because that's all she said. She didn't state an opinion one way or another. I have tno problem telling people what I think whether they be moderators or not. Sud-n-duds didn't feel bullied or she would have said so herself. I HAVE agreed to disagree with her (whom it really concerns), which is why I'm a little confused by this post... Oh well you can't please everyone... I certainly don't wish to.


I agree with you on that..can't make every happy..She didn't say you bullied her..but someone reading the post can assume that you were..but thats my opinion on this..when a person states Cute after a post that pretty much means they agree..all i'm saying is..the board needs to stay clean..and not get so nasty about things..Suds didn't get out of hand on her post..you did! you got carried away with your words and made it seem as though you were mad at her for stating her opinion....So..again thats my opinion on this..i've said what i wanted to say and thats it..no more out of my mouth about it..so to end this conversation..when people post stuff like this it involves every member who reads it..so its not between the two of you its everyone..

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#43   2008/05/29 03:41PM
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I only just came back to this board after a long time because of all the fighting it ridiculous. I don't like Greenlee myself and I don't care if you do or not that's your opinion, and fine with me. What a boring place if we all thought the same way.

#44   2008/05/29 03:57PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
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Quote wilmaj: I only just came back to this board after a long time because of all the fighting it ridiculous. I don't like Greenlee myself and I don't care if you do or not that's your opinion, and fine with me. What a boring place if we all thought the same way.


welcome back..sorry you left us..I agree with you its to much fighting..We are loosing alot of posters here because of it..People doesn't want to state their opinions because they are afraid if they say something someone doesn't approve of the will get bashed for it.. but i do welcome you back honey..and i hope you have a great weekend..be safe!

#45   2008/05/29 03:58PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
wilmaj
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Quote lsmith1967:
Quote wilmaj: I only just came back to this board after a long time because of all the fighting it ridiculous. I don't like Greenlee myself and I don't care if you do or not that's your opinion, and fine with me. What a boring place if we all thought the same way.


welcome back..sorry you left us..I agree with you its to much fighting..We are loosing alot of posters here because of it..People doesn't want to state their opinions because they are afraid if they say something someone doesn't approve of the will get bashed for it.. but i do welcome you back honey..and i hope you have a great weekend..be safe!


Thank you

#46   2008/05/29 05:14PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
liasonfourever
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Quote ryleeaileeronikfan:
Quote liasonfourever: The fact is that both Kendall and Greenlee have been the victim at one time or another..in this specific incidence Greenlee is but that doesn't mean that she hasn't also victimized others, even Kendall....especially Kendall. I know everyone is sick about bashing Greenlee about the whole Spike incident, but the fact is that Greenlee wanted to take Spike away because she felt entitled to him and as a result they were in an accident and Spike is deaf because of it....sure he has a cochlear implant but he is still deaf and always will be.

Kendall forgave Greenlee, now it's time for Greenlee to forgive Kendall. No one is saying there is nothing to forgive, because obviously what Kendall and Aidan did was wrong but Greenlee has been forgiven for a lot so now Greenlee needs to step up and do some forgiving of her own.


I agree that both Greenlee and Kendall are victims. They have both suffered things that they shouldn't have. I'm not gonna start listing all of the stuff that's happened to them. I would just like to point out that Spike being deaf was pronounced a medical problem and not a result of the accident. The deafness was caused by a spontaneous mutation in his genes.

My problem with the situation now was that both Greenlee and Kendall had done bad things to each other equally, but had managed to move past them since they were "even". All of it was in the past. Kendall forgave Greenlee for her misdeeds and Greenlee forgave Kendall for hers. So this is a "new" betrayal. They had decided to stop the backstabbing and the hurting each-other, and the secrets. And Kendall lied to her (on top of doing her man).



Oh...well now I feel stupid...lol...I must have missed that..I thought the story was still that Spike was deaf because of the accident...actually..come to think of it, at the time, I did think that was a strange injury to incur from a car accident but then I thought it's a soap so these things happen. Well that explains the fact that everyone was able to get past it.

I understand what you are saying that all this is after they made a truce and everything and agreed to stop hurting each other, but didn't they make this agreement after Kendall slept with Aidan...I'm just asking cause I really don't remember...and I know that even if they did Kendall kept lying to her about it...but it would have been worse if she slept with him after they promised not to hurt each other anymore.

I just wish Greenlee would stop for a second and just try to understand and try to forgive them...I mean sometimes you just can't even after you try but I wish she would try...I feel like she is not trying...I'm not saying I don't understand her feelings of being hurt and betrayed but I am saying that she is not trying to forgive...her inability to try is going to hurt her more than anyone else.

#47   2008/05/29 05:26PM
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it is way to early for greenlee to forgive, i mean she just found out less than 24hours ago. could you forgive your best friend for sleeping with your husband in less than a day. no way could i. probably NEVER!!! people let kendall off the hook for everything, that is the reason she acts the way she does(just like her mom). zach should have kicked her ars to the curb when he had a chance.by no means is greenlee a saint, but, this is just unforgivable.

#48   2008/05/29 05:35PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
liasonfourever
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Quote minksy: it is way to early for greenlee to forgive, i mean she just found out less than 24hours ago. could you forgive your best friend for sleeping with your husband in less than a day. no way could i. probably NEVER!!! people let kendall off the hook for everything, that is the reason she acts the way she does(just like her mom). zach should have kicked her ars to the curb when he had a chance.by no means is greenlee a saint, but, this is just unforgivable.


It is forgivable...Zach forgave Kendall...maybe not Aidan 100% but I think he will eventually...

I still say that Greenlee's been forgiven of things that some may say are far worse so she needs to step back and get some perspective...maybe not have a frigin tea party with Kendall tomorrow but not act the way that she is acting right now...and she needs to talk to Aidan...she needs to at least try to be there for him in the midst of this tragedy that is going on elsewhere instead of pretending she doesn't even know him...at least express her condolences to him...what happened at the hotel is so much more important than Greenlee's hurt feelings which should make her have some perspective on the situation.

What if both Kendall and Aidan died while Greenlee went off in a huff...how would she have felt then? Happy? Cause if she would have been the least bit sad about their death then she should be willing to try to listen to them and accept their apologies. And if she would have been happy about their death than they are both better off without Greenlee in their lives.

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#49   2008/05/29 05:47PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
minksy
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i do agree that greenlee should have said something to aidan about tad and julia, that was horrible that she didn't, but i still couldn't forgive them, and i for one would probably have slapped the sh#t out of that bit##.

#50   2008/05/29 06:57PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
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Here is my take on Greenlee...It is in her nature to be selfish(the writer made her that way) Personally, I love the character...she has every right to be angry...as any people with a human heart should...It is too early to forgive...Anyways it is Greenlee...she is known for not forgiving that easily...I can't wait for the weeks to come...

PS Everyone has a right to their own opinion...good or bad...I luv reading them...

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#51   2008/05/29 07:02PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
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Quote soapfan101: Here is my take on Greenlee...It is in her nature to be selfish(the writer made her that way) Personally, I love the character...she has every right to be angry...as any people with a human heart should...It is too early to forgive...Anyways it is Greenlee...she is known for not forgiving that easily...I can't wait for the weeks to come...

PS Everyone has a right to their own opinion...good or bad...I luv reading them...


i couldn't agree more. by the way we all love to hate them(greenlee and kendall) that is why we still watch.

#52   2008/05/30 01:41PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
ryleeaileero...
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Quote minksy: i do agree that greenlee should have said something to aidan about tad and julia, that was horrible that she didn't, but i still couldn't forgive them, and i for one would probably have slapped the sh#t out of that bit##.


I agree about the slapping part. BUT, as I pointed out before, she did ask about Julia. The conversation went as follows:

Ryan - [...] Robert Gardner took Angie hostage and shot at the reception. Julia Keefer is shot. She's at the hospital

Greenlee- Oh My God!! Was... Was anyone else...

Ryan - I don't know. I haven't... I haven't been able to find out any information at all. But the cop that I talked to at the hospital saw Jackson and Aidan. They're fine. They're totally safe.

Greenlee- Well is Julia gonna be OK?

Ryan - I don't know.


She asked about her father and her (faithless, cheating SOB) fiance first, then Julia. Neither Ryan nor Greenlee knew that Tad was hit. All they knew from the news report was that someone was dead and someone else was badly injured. They found out from Jack later in the hospital that Julia was dead. The conversation went as followed:

Ryan - Jack!!

Jackson - [looks at Greenlee] Well thank God you're alright.

Greenlee- Is it Julia?


She was concerned. She asked about Julia. She's not the totally and completely selfish b!tch people have been saying she was. She is selfish but not to the point of not caring about whether Julia was fine.

#53   2008/05/30 01:59PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
ryleeaileero...
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Quote liasonfourever:

It is forgivable...Zach forgave Kendall...maybe not Aidan 100% but I think he will eventually...

I still say that Greenlee's been forgiven of things that some may say are far worse so she needs to step back and get some perspective...maybe not have a frigin tea party with Kendall tomorrow but not act the way that she is acting right now...and she needs to talk to Aidan...she needs to at least try to be there for him in the midst of this tragedy that is going on elsewhere instead of pretending she doesn't even know him...at least express her condolences to him...what happened at the hotel is so much more important than Greenlee's hurt feelings which should make her have some perspective on the situation.

What if both Kendall and Aidan died while Greenlee went off in a huff...how would she have felt then? Happy? Cause if she would have been the least bit sad about their death then she should be willing to try to listen to them and accept their apologies. And if she would have been happy about their death than they are both better off without Greenlee in their lives.


I agree that it is forgivable.

But it would be a little easier to swallow if Kendall gave her room to breathe and didn't get in her face. When Zach had Aidan in his face after he found out, he decided (plotted) to send him to Sudan to get killed (by his own admission). He only decided to forgive (kinda) Aidan after he saw how Aidan was devoted to finding and saving his best friends brother, and therefore what a good guy he is.

Greenlee hasn't been given a chance to process anything (altough she found out the 21 of may which is a week ago, for them it's still the same day LOL). And she cares about Kendall and Aidan, or else it wouldn't hurt this much. I'm sure in time she'll be able to forgive Kendall because that's the kind of relationship they have (although we all know it's gonna be after she does something to get even). She cares about Aidan too, since when she heard from Ryan that UR had shot people, she actually worried that he might be hurt.

And I agree that she should be there to comfort Aidan because he lost a friend. But when you find out that your fiance cheated on you with your BFF that same night, and you arrive at the hospital and find her comforting him, it doesn't exactly bring forth warm and fuzzy feelings nor does it make you want to put things in perspective. I actually thought that scene was fantastic.

Greenlee looks up and sees Kendall standing with her arm on Aidan to comfort him. Ryan sees that Greenlee sees the Kaidan moment and puts his arm around her shoulders. Annie arrives and sees that Ryan sees that Greenlee sees (couldn't help myself ) the Kaidan moment, and turns away. The only way this scene would have been even better was if Zach had seen Annie see Ryan see Greenlee see the Kaidan moment. Now THAT would have been a tangled web (and one heck of a musical bed game).

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#54   2008/05/30 09:59PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
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Hello everyone, I know some one has touched base on this subject, but I just wanted to put my 2 sence in . I have loved Greens for a long time(do you remember her with leo!!)but since she has come back OMG!!! Yes I would be a little more than miffed if I found out that my husband/boyfriend slept with my bestfriend, but hello, does she forget that she kidnape Spike than alomst killed him!!!! AAAnnndd, Kendall forgave her for that. That to me is alot more unforgivable than a night of misguided sex.

#55   2008/05/31 05:09AM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
liasonfourever
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Quote ryleeaileeronikfan:
Quote minksy: i do agree that greenlee should have said something to aidan about tad and julia, that was horrible that she didn't, but i still couldn't forgive them, and i for one would probably have slapped the sh#t out of that bit##.


I agree about the slapping part. BUT, as I pointed out before, she did ask about Julia. The conversation went as follows:

Ryan - [...] Robert Gardner took Angie hostage and shot at the reception. Julia Keefer is shot. She's at the hospital

Greenlee- Oh My God!! Was... Was anyone else...

Ryan - I don't know. I haven't... I haven't been able to find out any information at all. But the cop that I talked to at the hospital saw Jackson and Aidan. They're fine. They're totally safe.

Greenlee- Well is Julia gonna be OK?

Ryan - I don't know.


She asked about her father and her (faithless, cheating SOB) fiance first, then Julia. Neither Ryan nor Greenlee knew that Tad was hit. All they knew from the news report was that someone was dead and someone else was badly injured. They found out from Jack later in the hospital that Julia was dead. The conversation went as followed:

Ryan - Jack!!

Jackson - [looks at Greenlee] Well thank God you're alright.

Greenlee- Is it Julia?


She was concerned. She asked about Julia. She's not the totally and completely selfish b!tch people have been saying she was. She is selfish but not to the point of not caring about whether Julia was fine.



It was more about her not saying something to Aidan about Julia dying and Tad being shot who she knows he is close to. I know she asked about Julia and everything to Ryan and Jack. I know it would have been hard for her to at least say she was sorry but a friend of his might die and one already did so she should have at least said she was sorry. She could have at least just went up to him and said "I just wanted to say that I'm sorry about Julia and I hope Tad is going to be okay" and walk away. I mean people dying is more important than her hurt feelings at the moment and she should have put it on the back burner and stuck around the hospital to see if anyone needed anything. I know she saw Kendall comforting Aidan but what does she expect...that is what you are supposed to do...it wasn't like she was giving him a huge hug and crying on her shoulder...it was a hand on a back.

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