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Greenlee's selfish...

Started by liasonfourever at 2008/05/22 10:44AM
Latest post: 2008/05/31 05:09AM, Views: 1265, Replies: 74
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#11   2008/05/23 11:15AM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
liasonfourever
liasonfourever

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Quote SOAPKID: UGH ... HERE WE GO GREENLEE BASHING TIME.



Like Kendall and any other woman didn't over react over anything at any time ... like Annie now withholding Ryan's info on fertilization. I can go on a laundry list.

Let me see ... if I found out that my fiance and BFF did the nasty while I was fighting for my life ... you're darn right I'd be p'd to high heaven.

She took the conversation out of the area and didn't do it in the middle of floor. I thought it was handled well.

Why isn't anyone knockin' Jack for his diarrhea mouth?? He could've talked to her at another time.

Oh .. I forgot ... it's easier just to hate Greenlee.


I don't hate Greenlee and I'm not even really bashing her...I just don't agree with how she didn't think of Zach...I have no problems with her really...I mean Greenlee is Greenlee...I'd like her to be happy.
I don't disagree with the way she overreacted...I know I said that I thought Zach's reaction when he found out was nice and refreshing and compared to how he reacted it made Greenlee look bad...but it is a normal reaction to feel hurt and betrayed and react like Greenlee did...I just really appreciated how Zach reacted and I think it demonstrates the kind of man he is and how much he loves Kendall.

My problem was with the fact that (and I noticed you didn't address this so I'm wondering what your opinion is on it) she wasn't considering the fact that this was how Zach was going to find out and she was being selfish and not thinking about him...she didn't want to protect him...she didn't want to soften the blow...she wasnt thinking about him at all...he was an afterthought after she saw him standing there next to Kendall and she was like..oh yeah...you're here...sorry you had to find out this way. Her reaction should have been between the 3 of them...Kendall, Aidan and her...she should have told Zach first or took Kendall and Aidan aside.

As for Jack...he's just dumb to automatically assume that is what she was wrong with her...


I agree she didn't think of Zach but we can't compare her reaction to Zach since he's so smooth. Greenlee is there to be the person to throw the wrench into things ... that's her point as a character just as Adam's point is to do the same for the men's aspect ... but there's not a trillion threads bashing him.

Look what he did at the wedding ... that was totally uncalled for ... but where's the Adam bats ready to beat his head in. That's my point ... there are many many people on here in company of Greenlee that are just as selfish and not one gets treated the same as she does.

BTW I think Jason and Liz would be nice together too.


I actually didn't really realize that so many people hate Greenlee and there are so many threads against her...I was just making my own observation about what was going on on yesterday's ep...compared to the characters on other soaps I think Greenlee isn't that bad at all. I think she's recently different than she used to be also and she deserves some credit for that I think.

...yes Jason and Liz would be nice together...not that we will ever actually see then together together but I will keep hoping.


I'm not saying by any stretch that she's an angel ... but she's needed in the story to move it along. And there are many other females on the show that have done just as much if not worse.

Also, my love for Zach made me forget in mentioning .... he didn't handle it so great and think of others feelings at first either ... he was willing to have Aidan possibly die when sending him off to Sudan. He didn't think of how Green would feel let alone all the people that do love Aidan .... like Kendall and others. So, even though I adore Zach ... he didn't handle it as calmly either to think of it.

Plus ... in nature ... when it comes to relationships woman generally handle it emotionally where men handle it vengefully.

on side note--due to nature of Jason's life ... I doubt we'll see Jason & Liz together too soon.


I was actually thinking the same thing about Zach...I love Zach..but he did send Aidan away...I don't know if he really consciously did it to be vengefull though...didn't he kind of realize that he was doing it for the wrong reasons but then it was too late and he wanted to go, etc. And I know he punched Aidan and all that too, he's not always completely calm and collected...but he was so calm when he first found out and he never really lashed out at Kendall which I admire because I've never seen a man react that way (at least on tv...in real life I wouldn't know)

And I know what you are saying about Greenlee's character...and there are certainly others who do worse things or just as bad...but I think people dislike or like certain characters not based on what there actual actions are but the way they react to situations and their personalities...it's just a theory of mine that's all...I think that people relate to a certain character types and if they do..they will justify that person's actions....if they don't..they will attack them when they do wrong. Which would explain the differences in people only seeing the bad in certain characters while others do just as bad things and they don't see it.

#12   2008/05/23 11:22AM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
SOAPKID
SOAPKID

Quote liasonfourever: And I know what you are saying about Greenlee's character...and there are certainly others who do worse things or just as bad...but I think people dislike or like certain characters not based on what there actual actions are but the way they react to situations and their personalities...it's just a theory of mine that's all...I think that people relate to a certain character types and if they do..they will justify that person's actions....if they don't..they will attack them when they do wrong. Which would explain the differences in people only seeing the bad in certain characters while others do just as bad things and they don't see it.


I think in the case of Greenlee though there are residual feelings due to the whole SS/RB situation that Frons caused.

I don't think it's all from just the character IMO cause there were many on here that said they'd not mind Greens/SS being with Zach and not with Greens/RB. So, I don't care how they wanna mask it .. it's still a RB/SS thing in some cases.

But I understand what you mean. On OLTL, I have one that I don't like but I don't start a million threads. And I disliked her for decades. Since the beginning.

#13   2008/05/23 12:14PM
Suds-n-duds
Suds-n-duds

[quote]Quote SOAPKID: [quote]Quote liasonfourever: And I know what you are saying about Greenlee's character...and there are certainly others who do worse things or just as bad...but I think people dislike or like certain characters not based on what there actual actions are but the way they react to situations and their personalities...it's just a theory of mine that's all...I think that people relate to a certain character types and if they do..they will justify that person's actions....if they don't..they will attack them when they do wrong. Which would explain the differences in people only seeing the bad in certain characters while others do just as bad things and they don't see it.[/quote]

I think in the case of Greenlee though there are residual feelings due to the whole SS/RB situation that Frons caused.

I don't think it's all from just the character IMO cause there were many on here that said they'd not mind Greens/SS being with Zach and not with Greens/RB. So, I don't care how they wanna mask it .. it's still a RB/SS thing in some cases.

ITA with you about this. The ENTIRE ordeal, from EVERY LITTLE DETAIL, to the CONSTANT and extremely loud and in our faces, television promos, magazine ads, and endless internet articles, (even saw it in pop up form on one soap site
) attempting to excite us fans about the supposed wonderfully impacting, and positively effectual return of "THE REAL GREENLEE" actually disgusted so very many, simply because of the way it was handled/promoted, and the blaitant insensitivity shown towards/regarding SS. Had it not happened the way that it unfortunately did, people MIGHT not harbor so much resentment/negativity towards or concerning RB, OR possibly the character of Greenlee. However, I've read elsewhere, that others FEEL that SINCE RB's been back in the role, TIIC have been TRYING to make her more of a "victim" as well as attempting to really redeem her character.

#14   2008/05/23 12:20PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
SOAPKID
SOAPKID

And that's fine on other sites Suds ... but I only frequent here and I'm tired of it. I've been on this site for 3 yrs and as of recent the constant bashing and look at all the threads dedicate to bashing greenlee .. it's ridiculous. It's not just a Greens alone thing ... it still has remnants of the SS/RB thing and it's time to move on.

There are 2 characters and one that's been there for decades that I dislike on OLTL ... ask any of the posters like Ez or Brian or Zachslady if they know who it is ... no they don't cause I don't rag on them constantly.

This website has become a bash Greenlee fiasco ... look at the titles of the threads then go into them ... they all get turned to Greens if it isn't dedicated to her they turn it into it.

It's the truth and you can see it in black and white.

#15   2008/05/23 01:30PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
liasonfourever
liasonfourever

Quote SOAPKID: And that's fine on other sites Suds ... but I only frequent here and I'm tired of it. I've been on this site for 3 yrs and as of recent the constant bashing and look at all the threads dedicate to bashing greenlee .. it's ridiculous. It's not just a Greens alone thing ... it still has remnants of the SS/RB thing and it's time to move on.

There are 2 characters and one that's been there for decades that I dislike on OLTL ... ask any of the posters like Ez or Brian or Zachslady if they know who it is ... no they don't cause I don't rag on them constantly.

This website has become a bash Greenlee fiasco ... look at the titles of the threads then go into them ... they all get turned to Greens if it isn't dedicated to her they turn it into it.

It's the truth and you can see it in black and white.


I respect that you don't bash a character even if you don't like him/her...that you try to focus on the positive...I personally think that it's okay to state a negative opinion as long as you don't only state negative ones and try to focus on the positive and also respect other posters opinions and viewpoints and don't let things get out of hand...moderation is the key...and keeping things in one thread is always a good idea...

What I try to do is...if I dislike something a character does I am saying that I dislike what they did and not who they are. At least that is what I try to do...I guess it doesn't always come accross like that. I do it with characters that I really like too if I see they are doing something that I disagree with. I think of it not as character bashing but as bashing what the character did. Like when your parents tell you not to hate people but it's okay to not like something they did. I didn't want this thread that I started to be a Greenlee bashing thread...I just didn't like what she did in regards to Zach.

#16   2008/05/23 01:32PM
Suds-n-duds
Suds-n-duds

Quote SOAPKID: And that's fine on other sites Suds ... but I only frequent here and I'm tired of it. I've been on this site for 3 yrs and as of recent the constant bashing and look at all the threads dedicate to bashing greenlee .. it's ridiculous. It's not just a Greens alone thing ... it still has remnants of the SS/RB thing and it's time to move on.

There are 2 characters and one that's been there for decades that I dislike on OLTL ... ask any of the posters like Ez or Brian or Zachslady if they know who it is ... no they don't cause I don't rag on them constantly.

This website has become a bash Greenlee fiasco ... look at the titles of the threads then go into them ... they all get turned to Greens if it isn't dedicated to her they turn it into it.

It's the truth and you can see it in black and white.


I'm sorry it bothers you. And I've seen it for myself. But there's nothin' that can be done about it. I understand what you're sayin' because as you don't seem to appreciate anti-Greenlee threads, there are other subjects that I've certainly seen a ridiculous amount of multiple threads started about. (IT'S NOT THE AMC BOARD BTW, I'm just giving you an example) Yeah it's irratating but I just stay the heck out of em and if this particular subject is brought up elsewhere I just back outta the thread. Cause yeah it is frustrating, especially if you're a fan I can totally see why you'd be aggritated.

#17   2008/05/23 04:29PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
Treester
Treester

Quote SOAPKID: UGH ... HERE WE GO GREENLEE BASHING TIME.



Like Kendall and any other woman didn't over react over anything at any time ... like Annie now withholding Ryan's info on fertilization. I can go on a laundry list.

Let me see ... if I found out that my fiance and BFF did the nasty while I was fighting for my life ... you're darn right I'd be p'd to high heaven.

She took the conversation out of the area and didn't do it in the middle of floor. I thought it was handled well.

Why isn't anyone knockin' Jack for his diarrhea mouth?? He could've talked to her at another time.

Oh .. I forgot ... it's easier just to hate Greenlee.


I dont get why you read the post that says GREENLEE'S SELFISH. Did you expect something good to be said about her. She is selfish, and manipulating, and a liar, always has been. I remember her in the old days. I wouldn't read a post that started off with so and so is selfish, if I liked them, I'd skip it over.

#18   2008/05/23 06:45PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
benice

Quote Treester:
Quote SOAPKID: UGH ... HERE WE GO GREENLEE BASHING TIME.



Like Kendall and any other woman didn't over react over anything at any time ... like Annie now withholding Ryan's info on fertilization. I can go on a laundry list.

Let me see ... if I found out that my fiance and BFF did the nasty while I was fighting for my life ... you're darn right I'd be p'd to high heaven.

She took the conversation out of the area and didn't do it in the middle of floor. I thought it was handled well.

Why isn't anyone knockin' Jack for his diarrhea mouth?? He could've talked to her at another time.

Oh .. I forgot ... it's easier just to hate Greenlee.


I dont get why you read the post that says GREENLEE'S SELFISH. Did you expect something good to be said about her. She is selfish, and manipulating, and a liar, always has been. I remember her in the old days. I wouldn't read a post that started off with so and so is selfish, if I liked them, I'd skip it over.



YIPEE!!!! Great post.

#19   2008/05/23 09:22PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
DEADTOO

Pretty sad when someone posts that can't object what you are saying and all you are ganging up and telling them they can't come into a thread. Obviously, they can read. Doesn't mean they can't have an opinion opposing your bashing thread. Why should they stay out if they have an opinion? Are you that threatened by opposition? Hmm. Just wondering.

#20   2008/05/23 09:32PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
pdames4
pdames4
moderator

"Greenlee's selfish"....always has been always will be..no surprises there.

#21   2008/05/23 09:55PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
wannazach
wannazach

Quote pdames4: "Greenlee's selfish"....always has been always will be..no surprises there.


That you!!! and you are A REAL MODERATOR!!! Not a self proclaimed one. Hope you don't get jumped onto and told to read the guidelines like the rest of us. LOL

#22   2008/05/24 07:14AM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
all4babe
all4babe

Quote wannazach:
Quote pdames4: "Greenlee's selfish"....always has been always will be..no surprises there.


That you!!! and you are A REAL MODERATOR!!! Not a self proclaimed one. Hope you don't get jumped onto and told to read the guidelines like the rest of us. LOL
Hahahaha!! well said/observed wanna

#23   2008/05/24 08:54AM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
k8ecup
k8ecup

Quote all4babe:
Quote wannazach:
Quote pdames4: "Greenlee's selfish"....always has been always will be..no surprises there.


That you!!! and you are A REAL MODERATOR!!! Not a self proclaimed one. Hope you don't get jumped onto and told to read the guidelines like the rest of us. LOL
Hahahaha!! well said/observed wanna


I second that!! LOL

#24   2008/05/24 01:27PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
Fan In Huskerland
Fan In Huskerland

Quote SOAPKID: And that's fine on other sites Suds ... but I only frequent here and I'm tired of it. I've been on this site for 3 yrs and as of recent the constant bashing and look at all the threads dedicate to bashing greenlee .. it's ridiculous. It's not just a Greens alone thing ... it still has remnants of the SS/RB thing and it's time to move on.

There are 2 characters and one that's been there for decades that I dislike on OLTL ... ask any of the posters like Ez or Brian or Zachslady if they know who it is ... no they don't cause I don't rag on them constantly.

This website has become a bash Greenlee fiasco ... look at the titles of the threads then go into them ... they all get turned to Greens if it isn't dedicated to her they turn it into it.

It's the truth and you can see it in black and white.



Soapy... face it... you and I are watching a soap opera... the half a dozen people who aren't watching because they hate Greenlee. I'm just glad Rebecca is there so they have her to hate... I didn't like Sabine and now I can watch the show and they can hate it... in 6 weeks they can hate Erica too! and Kendell and Babe... and probably who ever Beth Ehlers plays.

#25   2008/05/24 05:31PM
Re: Greenlee's selfish...
shugar60
shugar60

I use to think that Greenlee had a lot of potential but as always she thinks about no one but her self and no matter who she hurts in the long run as long it is not her that gets hurts out of anything. I was so happy for her when Aidan came bake from helping Jake but she doesn't deserve a good man like him in her life. First she is telling him how much she loves him and wants to be with him for the rest of her life and the next thing you know she is telling him that she doesn't want to have any children. How could she come out like that to him! If I were Aidan I'd go on about my business and find another woman like Julia. Julia is a great loving woman and very beautiful and she knows how to treat a man. I thought that Greenlee would change the selfish woman that she is but evidently she has not and never will. She doesn't stop to think about what she started to do with Zach while they were trapped. Yeah if she would have done anything with Zach and then got rescued how would she look at Kendall in her face and as her best friend then?
The way that Greenlee came out with her news that her big mouth father told her was down right cold.
Jack needs to mind his own business and let Greenlee live her own life and get what she deserves and Jack get his own messed up life back together.
At least Zach was a man about what happened between Aidan and Kendell and he understood, but can Greenlee try to understand anything? I think that it's good for Greenlee.

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