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Eden Riegel return put on hold

Started by CTgremlin at 2008/01/28 07:51PM
Latest post: 2008/02/04 06:22PM, Views: 1485, Replies: 68
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#21   2008/01/30 10:04PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
Stayler
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Quote wannazach: When in a romantic partnership with a single mother, and you are acting as that childs second mother and that the child loves you and would be hurt to loose you. And that child would be hurt if her mother was hurt. You should know how to keep your pants on if you care for that child at all. That is deliberately hurting that child for your own sexual desires.


I still don't see it as Maggie purposely hurting Miranda. What you cited above about parents and cheating happens often in the real world, and some couples can work through it. Others can't. I happen to believe that Bianca and Maggie are a couple that can work through it, especially since they are fictional. You don't. Oh well. We disagree again.

#22   2008/01/31 12:15PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
BellaMia
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Quote wannazach: When in a romantic partnership with a single mother, and you are acting as that childs second mother and that the child loves you and would be hurt to loose you. And that child would be hurt if her mother was hurt. You should know how to keep your pants on if you care for that child at all. That is deliberately hurting that child for your own sexual desires. And deeply lowers you character in the eyes of all who know an love Bianca and Miranda both on the show and the viewers as well MO



Obviously Wannazach, "lust" means a lot more to some people than love does.

Personally, I think you and I lean toward the "love" route. IMO, Lust is for the moment! Love is for a lifetime! Miranda needs a lifetime full of "love."

#23   2008/01/31 02:02PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
Stayler
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Quote BellaMia:
Quote wannazach: When in a romantic partnership with a single mother, and you are acting as that childs second mother and that the child loves you and would be hurt to loose you. And that child would be hurt if her mother was hurt. You should know how to keep your pants on if you care for that child at all. That is deliberately hurting that child for your own sexual desires. And deeply lowers you character in the eyes of all who know an love Bianca and Miranda both on the show and the viewers as well MO



Obviously Wannazach, "lust" means a lot more to some people than love does.

Personally, I think you and I lean toward the "love" route.


So rude... That's all I have to say there. Presumptuous, condemning rudeness.

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#24   2008/01/31 02:12PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
SOAPKID
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Quote BellaMia:
Quote wannazach: When in a romantic partnership with a single mother, and you are acting as that childs second mother and that the child loves you and would be hurt to loose you. And that child would be hurt if her mother was hurt. You should know how to keep your pants on if you care for that child at all. That is deliberately hurting that child for your own sexual desires. And deeply lowers you character in the eyes of all who know an love Bianca and Miranda both on the show and the viewers as well MO



Obviously Wannazach, "lust" means a lot more to some people than love does.

Personally, I think you and I lean toward the "love" route. IMO, Lust is for the moment! Love is for a lifetime! Miranda needs a lifetime full of "love."


I think ... if I understand u 2 right .... I agree.

When u are in a relationship with a single parent ... you are in a relationship with the child as well!!! You have an obligation to give them the best life. And cheating is not doing it for them!! You roped that child into believe that you are going to be there for them the rest of their life and give them the "home-life" they need. But when u decide to disrespect that union by going outside of the relationship for support .. emotional or sexual ... you just basically slapped the kid in the face. This actually is true as well with your own children. You owe it to them to put those wander-lust feelings aside and suppress them for the children. If you're totally unhappy ... you need to respect yourself and the father/mother of your children to leave the relationship with respect and not cause you want a few rolls in the hay with someone. You split amicably!! So you can maintain a healthy parental bond for the children.

I don't think in any manner ... sleeping with someone else while you are the parent or guardian of a child benefits the child if you are still in the relationship with the other parent.
IMO ... Maggie was WRONG WRONG WRONG ... JMO.
And yes ... this might be strict .. but I have personal standards I abide by.

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#25   2008/01/31 02:15PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
BellaMia
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Quote Stayler:
Quote BellaMia:
Quote wannazach: When in a romantic partnership with a single mother, and you are acting as that childs second mother and that the child loves you and would be hurt to loose you. And that child would be hurt if her mother was hurt. You should know how to keep your pants on if you care for that child at all. That is deliberately hurting that child for your own sexual desires. And deeply lowers you character in the eyes of all who know an love Bianca and Miranda both on the show and the viewers as well MO



Obviously Wannazach, "lust" means a lot more to some people than love does.

Personally, I think you and I lean toward the "love" route.


So rude... That's all I have to say there. Presumptuous, condemning rudeness.



Well, aren't we the pot calling the kettle black???

We all get along quite well on this board, even those with differences of opinions. We like and respect each other (and our varying opinions). You seem to be the one who popped on this board and started causing trouble by "attacking" others here and assuming you KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYBODY! Who died and made you Queen anyway?

Presumptious, condemning rudeness is a great self-description of yourself. I hope you memorize it!

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#26   2008/01/31 02:20PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
Stayler
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Quote SOAPKID: I think ... if I understand u 2 right .... I agree.

When u are in a relationship with a single parent ... you are in a relationship with the child as well!!! You have an obligation to give them the best life. And cheating is not doing it for them!! You roped that child into believe that you are going to be there for them the rest of their life and give them the "home-life" they need. But when u decide to disrespect that union by going outside of the relationship for support .. emotional or sexual ... you just basically slapped the kid in the face. This actually is true as well with your own children. You owe it to them to put those wander-lust feelings aside and suppress them for the children. If you're totally unhappy ... you need to respect yourself and the father/mother of your children to leave the relationship with respect and not cause you want a few rolls in the hay with someone. You split amicably!! So you can maintain a healthy parental bond for the children.

I don't think in any manner ... sleeping with someone else while you are the parent or guardian of a child benefits the child if you are still in the relationship with the other parent.
IMO ... Maggie was WRONG WRONG WRONG ... JMO.
And yes ... this might be strict .. but I have personal standards I abide by.

And I certainly wasn't arguing against any of that. I stated that Maggie did not set out to hurt Bianca or Miranda, and I stick by that. Plenty of people have worked out a situtation like Bianca and Maggie's. Others couldn't. That's my main point on that subject.

#27   2008/01/31 02:27PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
Stayler
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BellaMia: Well, aren't we the pot calling the kettle black???


Nope, it's not...because I've never been rude to anybody on this board. Stating stuff about a character is not being rude to anybody.

We all get along quite well on this board, even those with differences of opinions. We like and respect each other (and our varying opinions). You seem to be the one who popped on this board and started causing trouble by "attacking" others here and assuming you KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYBODY!


Don't make me out to be the bad guy. I haven't attacked anyone. You and your Zoe army are the ones who attack me and other people for even mentioning Maggie's name or BAM. To say that I have attcked anyone is outright lies...something I'm seeing you do often.

Who died and made you Queen anyway?


No, that's a question you should be asking yourself.

Presumptious, condemning rudeness is a great self-description of yourself. I hope you memorize it!


Don't have to. I coined it for you. Embrace it. Because it sure isn't me.

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#28   2008/01/31 02:33PM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
SOAPKID
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Quote Stayler:
Quote SOAPKID: I think ... if I understand u 2 right .... I agree.

When u are in a relationship with a single parent ... you are in a relationship with the child as well!!! You have an obligation to give them the best life. And cheating is not doing it for them!! You roped that child into believe that you are going to be there for them the rest of their life and give them the "home-life" they need. But when u decide to disrespect that union by going outside of the relationship for support .. emotional or sexual ... you just basically slapped the kid in the face. This actually is true as well with your own children. You owe it to them to put those wander-lust feelings aside and suppress them for the children. If you're totally unhappy ... you need to respect yourself and the father/mother of your children to leave the relationship with respect and not cause you want a few rolls in the hay with someone. You split amicably!! So you can maintain a healthy parental bond for the children.

I don't think in any manner ... sleeping with someone else while you are the parent or guardian of a child benefits the child if you are still in the relationship with the other parent.
IMO ... Maggie was WRONG WRONG WRONG ... JMO.
And yes ... this might be strict .. but I have personal standards I abide by.

And I certainly wasn't arguing against any of that. I stated that Maggie did not set out to hurt Bianca or Miranda, and I stick by that. Plenty of people have worked out a situtation like Bianca and Maggie's. Others couldn't. That's my main point on that subject.


Well, you have a right to ur opinion ... I was actually responding to the other 2 posters ... i actually didn't get to read your post at that time.

#29   2008/02/01 06:22AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
lisa-j
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Quote Stayler:
BellaMia: Well, aren't we the pot calling the kettle black???


Nope, it's not...because I've never been rude to anybody on this board. Stating stuff about a character is not being rude to anybody.

We all get along quite well on this board, even those with differences of opinions. We like and respect each other (and our varying opinions). You seem to be the one who popped on this board and started causing trouble by "attacking" others here and assuming you KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYBODY!


Don't make me out to be the bad guy. I haven't attacked anyone. You and your Zoe army are the ones who attack me and other people for even mentioning Maggie's name or BAM. To say that I have attcked anyone is outright lies...something I'm seeing you do often.

Who died and made you Queen anyway?


No, that's a question you should be asking yourself.

Presumptious, condemning rudeness is a great self-description of yourself. I hope you memorize it!


Don't have to. I coined it for you. Embrace it. Because it sure isn't me.


Word Stayler!!!,I don't know how many times i've been shot down or been critised for having a different opinion to the Zoe lovers on this board.Unless you worship her and the s/l your a bad guy and heaven forbid your a Bam fan even with all their history,love and popularity-Maggie is totally bad for cheating (she made a mistake,yes a big one but a mistake)and their relationship mean't nothing.

I hope Bianca comes back soon and I will continue to hope for a Bam reunion and no 6 mth psuedo-romance with Zoe is going to change that.I and alot of other fans didn't like the character and have a right to state it and the facts,which completely get ignored among the Zoe love.I don't mean to start an arguement here but i'm saying this out of frustration,because the truth is your too hard on non-Zoe fans.

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#30   2008/02/01 07:23AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
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"Sometimes it not what you say but how many times you say it."

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#31   2008/02/01 07:31AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
lisa-j
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How many times can ppl say Maggie doesn't deserve Bianca and that she's trash etc.If ppl wouldn't insult Bam so much me and Stayler wouldn't have to defend them so much.

#32   2008/02/01 07:39AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
BellaMia
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Quote Stayler:
Quote SOAPKID: I think ... if I understand u 2 right .... I agree.

When u are in a relationship with a single parent ... you are in a relationship with the child as well!!! You have an obligation to give them the best life. And cheating is not doing it for them!! You roped that child into believe that you are going to be there for them the rest of their life and give them the "home-life" they need. But when u decide to disrespect that union by going outside of the relationship for support .. emotional or sexual ... you just basically slapped the kid in the face. This actually is true as well with your own children. You owe it to them to put those wander-lust feelings aside and suppress them for the children. If you're totally unhappy ... you need to respect yourself and the father/mother of your children to leave the relationship with respect and not cause you want a few rolls in the hay with someone. You split amicably!! So you can maintain a healthy parental bond for the children.

I don't think in any manner ... sleeping with someone else while you are the parent or guardian of a child benefits the child if you are still in the relationship with the other parent.
IMO ... Maggie was WRONG WRONG WRONG ... JMO.
And yes ... this might be strict .. but I have personal standards I abide by.

And I certainly wasn't arguing against any of that. I stated that Maggie did not set out to hurt Bianca or Miranda, and I stick by that. Plenty of people have worked out a situtation like Bianca and Maggie's. Others couldn't. That's my main point on that subject.



You must be living in a totally different world, my dear. I've never known ANYONE who was cheated on that wasn't DEEPLY HURT by their partner's cheating! She didn't give a rat's petootie about hurting Binks (or Miranda) and only thought of herself. That's not the way "normal" people treat "the love of their life" (in your words).

Personally, I would rather see Binks move on to someone new, and if she has the "backbone" I think she has, she WILL find someone new and let Maggie rot in Paris. Maggie had her chance and blew it. She thought more of her quickie little "indiscretion" than she did of the "love of her life" as you call her. Why WOULD Binks even want someone she can't even trust, and especially someone who also hurt Miranda (the true love of Bianca's life)! Let's give Binks the credit she deserves for NOT putting Miranda in that situation again (no matter how Binks feels, one way or the other)!

#33   2008/02/01 07:48AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
lisa-j
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But you were angry at her for not having a relationship with Zoe for similar reasons-Miranda,that's kinda contradicting yourself.Ppl aren't perfect especially in soaps.If Bam don't come back at least give her a real love interest-look at ATWT now that's how it's done.

#34   2008/02/01 08:00AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
alij76
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For heaven's sake! People get back together after a cheating episode all the time! They also get back together after initially thinking the relationship could never work out. And this is in real life... in soaps, they could all DIE and it could still happen!

Both couples could get back together. And any of the four of them could be with someone new entirely. IT'S A SOAP OPERA.

#35   2008/02/01 08:35AM
Re: Eden Riegel return put on hold
BellaMia
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Quote lisa-j: But you were angry at her for not having a relationship with Zoe for similar reasons-Miranda,that's kinda contradicting yourself.Ppl aren't perfect especially in soaps.If Bam don't come back at least give her a real love interest-look at ATWT now that's how it's done.


I was angry with Binks for saying Zoe "wasn't capable of being a parent to Miranda" during her last visit. It had NOTHING to do with THEIR relationship. I felt her remarks were a total insult to both the Zoe character AND the entire TG community. It was basically like saying, if you are transgendered, you are incapable of being a good parent. IMO, Zoe would be a wonderful parent to any child, and likely because she didn't have a good childhood because she never had her father's approval. She would WANT her child to be loved and accepted, no matter what.

And, I believe I just said in my previous post that Bianca should "move on" to someone new and that I hoped she has the "backbone" to do so. Would I like to see Bianca and Zoe back together? Of course! But if not Bianca and Zoe, then I hope Binks finds a NEW love rather than return to one who hurt her so deeply! JMO

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