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I LOVE NATALIA

Started by Feie15 at 2009/10/29 10:50AM
Latest post: 2009/10/29 01:08PM, Views: 506, Replies: 28
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#1   2009/10/29 10:50AM
I LOVE NATALIA
Feie15
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Natalia and Brot today were AWESOME!
Natalia: Walk your butt back to Pine Valley!

I love her. Her fire. Her passion. That scene was GREAT!
Most favourite part of today's episode.

She's right! Brot needs to stop following orders once in a while. Because all Jesse is, is a crooked cop covering for criminals. I KNOW that Kendall is innocent, but it doesn't change the fact that she is a criminal.

#2   2009/10/29 10:59AM
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Quote Feie15: Natalia and Brot today were AWESOME!
Natalia: Walk your butt back to Pine Valley!

I love her. Her fire. Her passion. That scene was GREAT!
Most favourite part of today's episode.

She's right! Brot needs to stop following orders once in a while. Because all Jesse is, is a crooked cop covering for criminals. I KNOW that Kendall is innocent, but it doesn't change the fact that she is a criminal.


Criminal how? By DEFAULT? That's the only way I can see her being a criminal. But who isn't a criminal on these shows? Next, Natalia will be one. She already went along with Jesse's explanation of Randi "killing" North in self-defense. Yeah, it was the truth, but did Natalia check it out? Nope. Everybody on these shows go from good to bad, and then bad to worse.

#3   2009/10/29 11:04AM
Re: I LOVE NATALIA
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[quote]Quote MissChef: [quote]Quote Feie15:

Criminal how? By DEFAULT? That's the only way I can see her being a criminal. But who isn't a criminal on these shows? Next, Natalia will be one. She already went along with Jesse's explanation of Randi "killing" North in self-defense. Yeah, it was the truth, but did Natalia check it out? Nope. Everybody on these shows go from good to bad, and then bad to worse.[/quote]

You're right about that. Sure, she may be a criminal by default, but she's still a criminal. She never went to jail and had a person go to jail and get stabbed in her place.

Yes. This was all Zack's idea. But still, it doesn't change the fact that Jesse is a crooked cop who doesn't care about upholding the law. It doesn't matter that Kendall is innocent, she plead guilty and never went to jail.

In real life, it doesn't matter how innocent she is, she would still have to be in jail.

#4   2009/10/29 11:13AM
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Well, Zach and Jesse composed it. Kendall had nothing to do with it. Now she's guilty of going along with it AFTER the fact, but she certainly didn't set the other woman up to get stabbed, etc. And she wasn't the one paying the money.

Now, on another note, when it is proven that Kendall didn't do it...the law can't touch her. (At least that's how it works in real life) If you bust out of prison, and then it's found out that you're innocent; the search will automatically be called off. The only charge Kendall and Zach will have to face, is the paying a look alike to serve jail time. At least Zach will be in trouble, because we know he'll take all the blame. In which he should because it's the truth. Maybe that's how Zach's leaviing.

I love Jesse, but he takes too many orders rather than GIVING them.

#5   2009/10/29 01:08PM
Re: I LOVE NATALIA
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Feie, you and I are on the same wavelength; see my post "Awwwwww, aren't they cute?"; B&N are the cutest couple; don't worry, she may be mad now, but she'll get over it; however, trying to deal w/Jesse is another matter; he IS her father and her boss...and we all hate what a lackey he's become for Zach; to me, he's irredeemable but I'm sure the writers will figure out a way to make him come out smelling like a rose...Zach is such a dog...I feel sorry for Adam; he'll have another breakdown before they wrap this mess up...

#6   2009/10/30 09:05AM
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Feie15
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Quote MissChef: Well, Zach and Jesse composed it. Kendall had nothing to do with it. Now she's guilty of going along with it AFTER the fact, but she certainly didn't set the other woman up to get stabbed, etc. And she wasn't the one paying the money.

Now, on another note, when it is proven that Kendall didn't do it...the law can't touch her. (At least that's how it works in real life) If you bust out of prison, and then it's found out that you're innocent; the search will automatically be called off. The only charge Kendall and Zach will have to face, is the paying a look alike to serve jail time. At least Zach will be in trouble, because we know he'll take all the blame. In which he should because it's the truth. Maybe that's how Zach's leaviing.

I love Jesse, but he takes too many orders rather than GIVING them.


Yeah. and Zack deserves to go to jail. He deserves to go to jail for like kidnapping Kendall, locking her up, and fraud. Which, I don't think Kendall is going to press charges against him. But he still paid for some woman to go to jail in Kendall's place, which is fraud so Zack should go to jail for that.

I KNOW that EVERYBODY in PV has done something illegal. But the cops were NEVER in on it. They just didn't have any proof. Like David has done a LOT of illegal things, but there was never any proof. So with Annie, Adam, JR, Tad, Erica, they have all done illegal things and have gotten away with it simply because their was not enough proof to convict them or the charges were dropped or a very rich person would pay their way out of jail.

But the cops were never in on it. Now, Jesse is like a lackey and Zack is made out to be like a mafia boss. At the VERY LEAST with ALL the crime in PV, at least the cops should keep on the straight and narrow path. Chief Frye ALWAYS upheld the law and now I really miss him.

The law needs to follow what's right and what's wrong or else, what does it matter? Nothing matters if everybody is free to do whatever it is they want to do because they are best friends with the cops. And it's terrible when you have to worry about the cops setting you up. Chief Frye was never like that. Chief Frye never set anybody up. He always followed the straight and narrow path.

#7   2009/10/30 09:48AM
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Natalia Shot someone- Aiden- the first day she recieved her badge with the attitude " well its part of the job"! She didn't even bother to evaluate the situation! It didn't even bother her shooting a person, then she sets out to find Kendall and Aiden. She's already let being a cop go to her head, not thinking about her inexpierence. Brot was just protecting her knowing her actions could be dangerous. Thank goodness Angies a doctor, she may be operating on Natalia soon!

#8   2009/10/30 10:48AM
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Quote soapfan08: Natalia Shot someone- Aiden- the first day she recieved her badge with the attitude " well its part of the job"! She didn't even bother to evaluate the situation! It didn't even bother her shooting a person, then she sets out to find Kendall and Aiden. She's already let being a cop go to her head, not thinking about her inexpierence. Brot was just protecting her knowing her actions could be dangerous. Thank goodness Angies a doctor, she may be operating on Natalia soon!


It DID bother her that she shot somebody. Brot was talking to her about it. and went on about his experience in Iraq. "Evaluate the situation"? He had a gun on the other cops and he was going to make a get away.
"Dangerous"???? This is Aidan we are talking about. I don't think he would actually shoot Natalia when Jesse is helping him get away with murder, so to speak.

Kendall and Aidan are criminals. Jesse KNOWS the law but is sending the cops the wrong way and Natalia knows it from their experience on the run. She doesn't trust her father and KNOWS that he's up to something. Which he is. Jesse is a lackey for mafia boss Zack.

#9   2009/10/30 03:59PM
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~) Feie, MsChef...did you catch a little 'revisionist history' yesterday, when Natalia told Brot that story about their family 'being on the run' w/Jesse? I was stunned! The writers forgot to consult w/the previous writers (Esenson & Brown),'cuz they were NEVER on the run! Jesse told Rebecca about BEING on the run while he was "in therapy", but that didn't stop him from starting a whole new life and family w/her, and NOWHERE in that entire s/l, did they ever say they were on the run! They lived a normal life in Denver until Jesse came back home when Frankie was sick; otherwise, there wouldn't have been that whole 'Papel' s/l! These writers are either dumb or have amnesia! Actually, it's probably a case of BOTH!

#10   2009/10/30 05:28PM
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Quote soapfan08: Natalia Shot someone- Aiden- the first day she recieved her badge with the attitude " well its part of the job"! She didn't even bother to evaluate the situation! It didn't even bother her shooting a person, then she sets out to find Kendall and Aiden. She's already let being a cop go to her head, not thinking about her inexpierence. Brot was just protecting her knowing her actions could be dangerous. Thank goodness Angies a doctor, she may be operating on Natalia soon!


I like Natalia but she was always a spoiled little brat since she made herself known and talking about family memories with her mom in front of Angie, wanting their ornaments on the tree last, to this attitude since becoming a cop. She had no business deciding to go out and find Kendall and Aiden without orders from her superior and I am so glad that Jesse talked to her like all the other cops and put her on suspension. On another note, it was ridiculous how she was using that dry/hard sponge on Brot yesterday -- okay.

#11   2009/10/31 09:39AM
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Feie15
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MRS. GEH. Did you forget that Jesse is WORKING with Kendall and Zack. Did you forget that he sent cops on the WRONG direction to protect Kendall??? Natalia KNOWS that something's up, which is why she's following her guts. If Kendall was a real person, and you had no idea that she was innocent, would you want the cops to help her get away with murder? You can't have special rules for somebody simply because you love/like them.

Quote hubbardfan: Feie, MsChef...did you catch a little 'revisionist history' yesterday, when Natalia told Brot that story about their family 'being on the run' w/Jesse? I was stunned! The writers forgot to consult w/the previous writers (Esenson & Brown),'cuz they were NEVER on the run! Jesse told Rebecca about BEING on the run while he was "in therapy", but that didn't stop him from starting a whole new life and family w/her, and NOWHERE in that entire s/l, did they ever say they were on the run! They lived a normal life in Denver until Jesse came back home when Frankie was sick; otherwise, there wouldn't have been that whole 'Papel' s/l! These writers are either dumb or have amnesia! Actually, it's probably a case of BOTH!


Oh. actually, I have forgotten ALL about that. but there has been many horrible stories lately. Kudos to you for catching that.

#12   2009/10/31 06:30PM
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MRS GEH
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Quote Feie15: MRS. GEH. Did you forget that Jesse is WORKING with Kendall and Zack. Did you forget that he sent cops on the WRONG direction to protect Kendall??? Natalia KNOWS that something's up, which is why she's following her guts. If Kendall was a real person, and you had no idea that she was innocent, would you want the cops to help her get away with murder? You can't have special rules for somebody simply because you love/like them.

Quote hubbardfan: Feie, MsChef...did you catch a little 'revisionist history' yesterday, when Natalia told Brot that story about their family 'being on the run' w/Jesse? I was stunned! The writers forgot to consult w/the previous writers (Esenson & Brown),'cuz they were NEVER on the run! Jesse told Rebecca about BEING on the run while he was "in therapy", but that didn't stop him from starting a whole new life and family w/her, and NOWHERE in that entire s/l, did they ever say they were on the run! They lived a normal life in Denver until Jesse came back home when Frankie was sick; otherwise, there wouldn't have been that whole 'Papel' s/l! These writers are either dumb or have amnesia! Actually, it's probably a case of BOTH!


Oh. actually, I have forgotten ALL about that. but there has been many horrible stories lately. Kudos to you for catching that.



Feie15,

I do not forget much at all and was not writing about what Jesse is doing wrong or not. Natalia had no business taking it upon herself to get Kendall and Aiden and it was not assigned to her. It is that spoiled little daddy's girl brat attitude that makes her think it was okay, which is why Jesse had to put her in in her place. I like Natalia but just had to point this out. She is too quick to pull the trigger when no one was running or shooting, trying to solve crimes against the chief's wishes, etc. Also, Kendall did not kill Stuart and we are all aware of this and Jesse knows it, but is it okay for Annie and Scott and everyone else that knows the truth to stay quiet so Kendall will have to stay on the run and/or spend time in prison? That is just cheap booszhie manipulating crazy....

#13   2009/11/01 08:14PM
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I know that this thread is about Natalia so I must say that I do love Natalia. I love how she stands her ground to everyone. She is quite fisty. Now on to this criminal thing. I've got to side with Ms. Chef there isn't anyone on AMC who isn't a criminal including Kendall because technically she is a criminal because she is a fugative. Not only that she did point the gun at "Adam" with the intent to kill him and the last time I checked thats a crime also. Either way she is no better then anyone else including Annie. I just said that because I get tired of the characters bashing Annie all the time when they aren't any better then she is. They have all done dirt, but they act as if they have never done any wrong. I can't think of any character on AMC who hasn't done wrong including the new saint "Marrisa." With that said there is no reason to call Jesse a crocked cop either when their all the same. I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I can't stand Ryan. LOL!

#14   2009/11/02 09:32AM
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Feie15
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Quote elementary teacher: I know that this thread is about Natalia so I must say that I do love Natalia. I love how she stands her ground to everyone. She is quite fisty. Now on to this criminal thing. I've got to side with Ms. Chef there isn't anyone on AMC who isn't a criminal including Kendall because technically she is a criminal because she is a fugative. Not only that she did point the gun at "Adam" with the intent to kill him and the last time I checked thats a crime also. Either way she is no better then anyone else including Annie. I just said that because I get tired of the characters bashing Annie all the time when they aren't any better then she is. They have all done dirt, but they act as if they have never done any wrong. I can't think of any character on AMC who hasn't done wrong including the new saint "Marrisa." With that said there is no reason to call Jesse a crocked cop either when their all the same. I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I can't stand Ryan. LOL!



You have brought up a good point. However, Chief Frye ALWAYS stayed in the right side of the law. If I remember correctly, Chief Frye has NEVER broken the law or let his friends get away with everything. Even when he KNEW somebody was innocent, he put them in jail because all the evidence pointed to that person and he had no choice. He was a by-the-book cop.

So, I HATE IT when people say that "Natalia has to take orders from her superior." When her superior is a crooked cop breaking more laws and either David or Annie.

"She has no business to go after Kendall and Aidan without orders"??? In NORMAL cases where the Chief of police is ACTUALLY doing his job, it is wrong to go against his orders. But when he Chief of Police is worst than the criminals, than I don't see what is wrong with what she is doing. I mean, the ONLY reason he is suspending Natalia is NOT because she went went after criminals. He suspended Natalia because she was hot on Kendall's trial and he is just trying to protect Kendall. I can't WAIT until Natalia find out that he is still breaking the law to help Kendall.

I truly hope that Jesse loses his badge. He whole town should find out what he has done. And hopefully, Chief Frye or some other cop would come to take his place and banned him from working as a police.

And you are right, Breaking and Entering and holding a gun with an intent to kill is STILL ILLEGAL.

#15   2009/11/02 05:01PM
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MRS GEH
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Quote Feie15:
Quote elementary teacher: I know that this thread is about Natalia so I must say that I do love Natalia. I love how she stands her ground to everyone. She is quite fisty. Now on to this criminal thing. I've got to side with Ms. Chef there isn't anyone on AMC who isn't a criminal including Kendall because technically she is a criminal because she is a fugative. Not only that she did point the gun at "Adam" with the intent to kill him and the last time I checked thats a crime also. Either way she is no better then anyone else including Annie. I just said that because I get tired of the characters bashing Annie all the time when they aren't any better then she is. They have all done dirt, but they act as if they have never done any wrong. I can't think of any character on AMC who hasn't done wrong including the new saint "Marrisa." With that said there is no reason to call Jesse a crocked cop either when their all the same. I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I can't stand Ryan. LOL!



You have brought up a good point. However, Chief Frye ALWAYS stayed in the right side of the law. If I remember correctly, Chief Frye has NEVER broken the law or let his friends get away with everything. Even when he KNEW somebody was innocent, he put them in jail because all the evidence pointed to that person and he had no choice. He was a by-the-book cop.

So, I HATE IT when people say that "Natalia has to take orders from her superior." When her superior is a crooked cop breaking more laws and either David or Annie.

"She has no business to go after Kendall and Aidan without orders"??? In NORMAL cases where the Chief of police is ACTUALLY doing his job, it is wrong to go against his orders. But when he Chief of Police is worst than the criminals, than I don't see what is wrong with what she is doing. I mean, the ONLY reason he is suspending Natalia is NOT because she went went after criminals. He suspended Natalia because she was hot on Kendall's trial and he is just trying to protect Kendall. I can't WAIT until Natalia find out that he is still breaking the law to help Kendall.

I truly hope that Jesse loses his badge. He whole town should find out what he has done. And hopefully, Chief Frye or some other cop would come to take his place and banned him from working as a police.

And you are right, Breaking and Entering and holding a gun with an intent to kill is STILL ILLEGAL.


Hi Feie15,

I hear you but regardless what he is doing, Jesse is still Chief of Police and Natalia had no right to go against his orders or take it upon herself to investigate cases without his approval. Same when Angie and Jake get smart with David and he reminds them who is the boss. Plus, Jesse knows that Kendall is innocent and allowing them to buy time as they try to close in on the real murderer. Yeah he could say to Kendall that he knows she is not guilty but rules are rules and that she needs to go to prison but remember Zach was also blackmailing him in the first place.

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